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Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 06:29
by Ezzard
This boxer doesn't get much attention. I did a search by title and he's never come up. He was a tremendous fighter and one of the mainstays of the 1980s.
He fought almost all of the top flys of the 80s and was willing to travel.
He has a lot of good names on his record and was great to watch. A fight with Khaosai Galaxy would have been a natural.
I know we have some great South American experts on here so I would love to hear their opinions.
Any one know if his main figths available on film?
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 06:57
by bennie
Great flyweight, one of my favourites. He beat some big names in defence of his WBA belt while the WBC belt was handed around like sweets.
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 07:02
by Ezzard
bennie wrote:Great flyweight, one of my favourites. He beat some big names in defence of his WBA belt while the WBC belt was handed around like sweets.
That's how I remember him.
He was a formidable fighter. The Magri fight was close as I remember it and Cgarluie had home advantage.
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 07:08
by bennie
Ezzard wrote:bennie wrote:Great flyweight, one of my favourites. He beat some big names in defence of his WBA belt while the WBC belt was handed around like sweets.
That's how I remember him.
He was a formidable fighter. The Magri fight was close as I remember it and Cgarluie had home advantage.
He dropped Magri in the first round and it was a thriller all the way through. In Argentina, Laciar would have got it; in London, Magri took the nod. Laciar won the WBA title a few months later in South Africa, lost it in something of a surprise to slick Panamanian southpaw Luis Ibarra, but won it back from rugged Mexican Juan Herrera, when the Mexican's shoulder popped out in the 13th round. Laciar then went on a great run as champ and beat Herrera in a return. He had essentially run out of challengers when he moved up to super-flyweight.
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 07:15
by Ezzard
bennie wrote:Ezzard wrote:bennie wrote:Great flyweight, one of my favourites. He beat some big names in defence of his WBA belt while the WBC belt was handed around like sweets.
That's how I remember him.
He was a formidable fighter. The Magri fight was close as I remember it and Cgarluie had home advantage.
He dropped Magri in the first round and it was a thriller all the way through. In Argentina, Laciar would have got it; in London, Magri took the nod. Laciar won the WBA title a few months later in South Africa, lost it in something of a surprise to slick Panamanian southpaw Luis Ibarra, but won it back from rugged Mexican Juan Herrera, when the Mexican's shoulder popped out in the 13th round. Laciar then went on a great run as champ and beat Herrera in a return. He had essentially run out of challengers when he moved up to super-flyweight.
I remember those names as well as Gilberto Roman and Zapata.
Was Laciar the best Flyweight of the 1980s?
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 07:23
by bennie
Ezzard wrote:bennie wrote:Ezzard wrote:
That's how I remember him.
He was a formidable fighter. The Magri fight was close as I remember it and Cgarluie had home advantage.
He dropped Magri in the first round and it was a thriller all the way through. In Argentina, Laciar would have got it; in London, Magri took the nod. Laciar won the WBA title a few months later in South Africa, lost it in something of a surprise to slick Panamanian southpaw Luis Ibarra, but won it back from rugged Mexican Juan Herrera, when the Mexican's shoulder popped out in the 13th round. Laciar then went on a great run as champ and beat Herrera in a return. He had essentially run out of challengers when he moved up to super-flyweight.
I remember those names as well as Gilberto Roman and Zapata.
Was Laciar the best Flyweight of the 1980s?
I would put him at No. 2, behind the great Sot Chitalada.
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 09:18
by Ezzard
I remember the Magri fight. Charlie was a bit past it by then. Remember than one, Bennie?
I wonder how Magri would rate the two of them...
There was talk of Chitalada meeting Galaxy. Shame that never happened.
Another great name from that era was the Japanese boxer Jiro Watanabe (jr Bantam).
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 09:42
by bennie
Ezzard wrote:I remember the Magri fight. Charlie was a bit past it by then. Remember than one, Bennie?
I wonder how Magri would rate the two of them...
There was talk of Chitalada meeting Galaxy. Shame that never happened.
Another great name from that era was the Japanese boxer Jiro Watanabe (jr Bantam).
Yeah, it was Warren's second world title promotion (after Curry-Jones) and Terry Lawless couldn't wait to pull out Magri, although the fight was essentially over after Magri landed his best shot on Chitalada and the Thai just laughed. Southpaw Watanabe was a big draw in Japan and had a cracking reign only ended by Gilberto Roman. Watanabe never fancied Galaxy, though.
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 27 Sep 2010, 19:01
by elmersalsa
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 27 Sep 2010, 19:42
by Goodnight, Irene
More Barry McGuigan...
Re: Who remembers Santos Laciar?
Posted: 27 Sep 2010, 22:45
by giacomino
Was a huge fan of Laciar in the 1980s. IMO he was the best, and probably strongest flyweight of the decade. His title loss to Luis Ibarra was strange because the fight was in Argentina but a lot people thought Laciar won it and the WBA wanted Ibarra as champion and he got the close decision.
Laciar re-won the title in Mexico, and defended it in Venezuela, Denmark, Japan, South Korea, Italy and France, fighting regularly in his opponent's home. Over the course of a little more than a year he beat future titlist Hi-Sup Shin and ex-champions Juan Herrera, Prudencio Cardona and the great Hilario Zapata. A lot of people call Wonjongkam a certain HOFer at flyweight but he never came close to having a run of defenses like that. Past his prime Laciar moved up and beat Gilberto Roman, a superb junior bantamweight, to win another title.
Chitalada was also a great champion during the 1980s and deserves props for KOing Magri in the U.K. and beating champions Bernal and the great but faded Jung-Koo Chang.