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Who had the best conditioning/cardio of all time? In other words, who was that one boxer who was fighting the championship rounds like it was round one or two?

Discuss.

Yeah I was going to talk about Salvador, but I know some of you know he's my favorite, so you guys might of thought I was being biased. Guy looked like a first round fighter every time I saw him. He looked especially good vs. Nelson in round 15.

Henry Armstrong supposedly had a heart rate of 27 bpm and Jersey Joe Walcott 45 bpm.

In the last 10 years Joe Calzaghe stands out for me along with the Pac Man and JMM.

Calzaghe showed a great ticker in his battles with Brewer, Woodhall, Lacey and Hopkins.

Could be Monzon....AND he smoked.

J-C wrote:Henry Armstrong supposedly had a heart rate of 27 bpm and Jersey Joe Walcott 45 bpm.

I can believe 45 beats PM but not 27! That's too slow, surely?

Rocky Balboa wrote:

J-C wrote:Henry Armstrong supposedly had a heart rate of 27 bpm and Jersey Joe Walcott 45 bpm.

I can believe 45 beats PM but not 27! That's too slow, surely?

It's not inconceivable, cyclist Miguel Indurain supposedly had a heart rate in the mid 20's. I have seen many cross country skiers in the low 30's. It would be highly uncommon for a boxer to be that low but not physically impossible.

hhaehre wrote:

Rocky Balboa wrote:

J-C wrote:Henry Armstrong supposedly had a heart rate of 27 bpm and Jersey Joe Walcott 45 bpm.

I can believe 45 beats PM but not 27! That's too slow, surely?

It's not inconceivable, cyclist Miguel Indurain supposedly had a heart rate in the mid 20's. I have seen many cross country skiers in the low 30's. It would be highly uncommon for a boxer to be that low but not physically impossible.

At his death they did an autopsy and found he had an abnormally large heart, and he also said himself that his heartrate was much lower than normal and it took him a long time to warm up.

The same is true for Indurain I believe, autopsy confirmed this? He also had abnormally large lungs, which displaced his stomach.

Armstrong was indeed a confirmed freak --- a true oddity. Among the less-blessed, Sanchez is a terrific shout. More recently, Pacquiao has proven pretty phenomenal in this regard.

Anyone remember that shoot where they took the rested & elevated heart rates for De La Hoya & Trinidad, shortly before their fight? They took De La Hoya's, & the recovery was much as expected. Trinidad's, though, just blew it away. Shot right back down to resting in no time at all. If ever De La Hoya had a look of intimidation on his face in all his courageous career, you could see it then & there, when they showed just how well-conditioned Trinidad was.

that last round with De La Hoya and Quartey................Ike had real lungs on him.........a shame he fought like a lazy ####o in his next fight with Vargas though...

Aaron Pryor (with help from the Juice)

Daniel Ponce De Leon deserves a shout. The man throws tons of loaded punches and never looks tired. Celestino Caballero looks to have great stamina as well because he's so calm. Floyd Mayweather doesn't seem to slow down much.

Back in the 80s British Jr Welter Terry Marsh was supposed to have some amazing pulse rate. Not sure of the numbers exactly though.

I've yet to see Floyd Mayweather Jr. tired.

In recent times, it's Joe Calzaghe - his stamina was phenomenal. He would still be throwing clusters of punches in the last round with not let up whatsoever.

All-time, it has to be Henry Armstrong - he was a cyborg with unbelievable stamina.

Honourable mention to Rocky Marciano.

Syntax Error wrote:In recent times, it's Joe Calzaghe - his stamina was phenomenal. He would still be throwing clusters of punches in the last round with not let up whatsoever.

All-time, it has to be Henry Armstrong - he was a cyborg with unbelievable stamina.

Honourable mention to Rocky Marciano.

You know your conditioning had to have been bad-ass when Joe Frazier aspires to emulate you

Battling Nelson deserves a shout....

Felix Trinidad had a great pair of lungs in the modern age.

Armstrong was found to have an abnomrally enlarged heart, which is what he had such endurance and a low resting pulse. It was said he would have a pretty hefty warm up for 15 rounds or so before even stepping out of the changing rooms.

I know he's not the greatest fighter any of us have ever seen, but I'd like to send a shout out for Manuel Medina, threw like 1400 something punches against Tapia back in 2002 and looked like he could go another 12. That's pretty impressive.

Ricky Hatton had amazing stamina, as does Margarito. I am wondering from observing people`s thoughts on Pac-man`s and Mayweather`s great stamina, is there somewhere, a detailed description as to what they do on a daily basis in the gym? Especially Pac-man because he is an offensive minded fighter. If not, is there any other fighters who have a tough training regiment that have detailed there workouts?

Syntax Error wrote:Honourable mention to Rocky Marciano.

Yes he was always going to be mentioned sooner or later. But dam, that guy was a battering ram who just kept comin and comin' and comin'.

Barney Ross, Henry Armstrong, Benny Leonard, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, prime Dwight Qawi, Jack Dempsey

In modern times, Sam Soliman stands out to me (as well of course Pacquao and the Marquez brothers)

gilgamesh wrote:I know he's not the greatest fighter any of us have ever seen, but I'd like to send a shout out for Manuel Medina, threw like 1400 something punches against Tapia back in 2002 and looked like he could go another 12. That's pretty impressive.

good shout

Not a single mention of Harry Greb ?

In more recent times. Michael Spinks, Julio Cesar Chavez and Barry McGuigan deserve mention.