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DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 05:24
by Smokin Preedy
Does anyone know when the deadline for the Haye promotions is for the fight to happen in December? Boxrec has DeGale as headlining his own show under FW promotion.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 05:26
by Dioufy
If it happens on a Warren show, expect DeGale to stop him early with Calzaghe-esque slaps landing solely on Groves gloves.

I fecking hate boxing sometimes.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 05:31
by orbtastic
As I understand it, Haye countered FW's offer on the same day with a bigger purse, on the proviso that Hayemaker promotions staged the bill and not FW. It seems to have gone dead since then.

All this is on the last thread though?

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 05:32
by Dioufy
Yep, it won't happen. Twat face wants it on his bill and vice versa.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 05:51
by boxingchat
Adam Booth rejected the fight offer from FW by way of a counter offer which was much less than DeGale earns for run of the mill fights.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 06:10
by orbtastic
So he offered more or less than FW's initial offer?

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 06:16
by Chambers2
It's the same age old story....

1) Promoter A offers X to fighter B for the fight to go on his show
2) Promoter B counteracts with an offer of 2x for fighter A to go onto promoters B's show
3) Promoter A states that his fighter gets paid 4x from him anyway
4) Everything goes quiet

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 06:22
by Gazmac81
Yea its frustrating

Groves has more to gain by going on frank warrrens show and beating degale
although its not his decison really but wish they would take the chance as it could pay dividends in long run.
Chambers2 wrote:It's the same age old story....

1) Promoter A offers X to fighter B for the fight to go on his show
2) Promoter B counteracts with an offer of 2x for fighter A to go onto promoters B's show
3) Promoter A states that his fighter gets paid 4x from him anyway
4) Everything goes quiet

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 06:22
by orbtastic
Well yeah, Haye mouths off and says we offered your man more money than you offered him <takes moral high ground> FW says well he can earn more money with me <says Groves is ducking>

It'll go on for ages. Groves watched DeGale in his last one.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 12:00
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
orbtastic wrote:So he offered more or less than FW's initial offer?
booth offered more.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 12:02
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
Gazmac81 wrote:Yea its frustrating

Groves has more to gain by going on frank warrrens show and beating degale
although its not his decison really but wish they would take the chance as it could pay dividends in long run.
Chambers2 wrote:It's the same age old story....

1) Promoter A offers X to fighter B for the fight to go on his show
2) Promoter B counteracts with an offer of 2x for fighter A to go onto promoters B's show
3) Promoter A states that his fighter gets paid 4x from him anyway
4) Everything goes quiet
i see where you are coming from but being on a warren card you take big risks, you can get stopped after taking 5 punches and not even be hurt,and get robbed.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 12:17
by 15829
they dont just happen on warren shows

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 12:33
by idle talk
if groves v degale was on a warren show and groves won, warren would have somekind of clauses written in the contract he always does.. like martinez and prescott came back over to fight warren fighters

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 13:16
by orbtastic
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
orbtastic wrote:So he offered more or less than FW's initial offer?
booth offered more.
That wsa my understanding, the post after mine seemed to contradict it though - i.e. haye offered less than DeGale would get beating me up...which sort of suggests FW's initial offer was very low then?

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 15:13
by greenyox3
Both sides are posturing & trying to make it look like the other doesn't want the fight, but both know that it's not in their interests for this fight to happen at this stage i.e while they're both still considered "prospects". This fight won't happen til one of them has a world title (and with FW involved it will probably be the WBO title)

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 29 Sep 2010, 17:42
by Yes We Can
The stu,bling block is that Degale is paid X amount for each fight, so although Hayemakers purse-offer was bigger the split means Degale 0will be worse off "financially" .... the fight needs building up in my opinion, and i would like to see them wait maybe a year when there respective abillitys should be competing for a bigger title/stakes.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 30 Sep 2010, 13:10
by bigped
funtime wrote:The stu,bling block is that Degale is paid X amount for each fight, so although Hayemakers purse-offer was bigger the split means Degale 0will be worse off "financially" .... the fight needs building up in my opinion, and i would like to see them wait maybe a year when there respective abillitys should be competing for a bigger title/stakes.
Agreed they dont need to fight each other yet, Anderson won again at weekend there( video on hatton site) you have quiqley, david, smith., few good matchups can be made first of all.

Re: DeGale vs Groves

Posted: 01 Oct 2010, 04:41
by wadey
But what real harm would it do to have a decent healthy rivarly in British Boxing. Let them fight now, then they can fight again in a year or two's time if their careers are still going in tune.