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Calzaghe pulls out with flu

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:05
by MightyWarrior
Does this mean the whole bill is cancelled? Probably not I guess, with Sky needing a slot to fill...

Bunch or arse

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:13
by jamesmcdonnell
What a bunch or arse.

Re: Bunch or arse

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:15
by Kilburn
Not bothered in the slightest.

I am.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:17
by jamesmcdonnell
1 fight in the whole year, great, Calzaghe's career is just whizzing past and he's achieving nothing.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:35
by bennie
Next thing Tackie will be pulling out...

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:41
by Michaeljpoole
and it starts, first calzaghe the takaloo.

To be fair if he has flu he should pull out, but why do we always seem to have undelievered promises by sports network. Last december after much promise we got:

Calazge Vs Pudwill
Hatton vs Hutchison

Why would I not be shocked if Tackie pulls out as well.

Still Magee vs Vincent, but I wish this was for the British title, i am sure it would mean more to both fighters.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 07:53
by Priff
His career is a joke (through a mixture of circumstances beyond and within his control), we all now that, so no surprises there.

Now he doesn't have a chance to sit by ring side and say, "Next year will be my defining year", which is a shame because that has become a part of british boxing tradition.

But, still a good bill in it's own right. I'm still watching.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 08:49
by Goz
Priff wrote: Now he doesn't have a chance to sit by ring side and say, "Next year will be my defining year", which is a shame because that has become a part of british boxing tradition.
:lol:

It's a Christmas tradition like turkey, mince pies and a tree. Joe Calzaghe and Warren telling us next year will be the year!

And we get that Sky special hour long documentary style programme repeated 1000 times over the holiday period on Calzaghe, they will struggle to fill it up this year though!

2 rounds in a year! Jesus.

Does anyone know

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:10
by jamesmcdonnell
Whether the flu is the real reason why he pulled out, anyone heard anything different?

Re: Does anyone know

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:13
by bennie
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Whether the flu is the real reason why he pulled out, anyone heard anything different?
Yes, he couldn't make the weight. His last fight at super-middle came in the Summer against Byron Mitchell.

Re: Does anyone know

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:19
by Goz
bennie wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Whether the flu is the real reason why he pulled out, anyone heard anything different?
Yes, he couldn't make the weight. His last fight at super-middle came in the Summer against Byron Mitchell.
If this is the case then why at least not have Calzaghe in a Light-Heavyweight 10 rounder? Better than nothing and could be against a fairly easy opponent and marketed as JC's move up at last...

Re: Does anyone know

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:21
by bennie
Goz wrote:
bennie wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Whether the flu is the real reason why he pulled out, anyone heard anything different?
Yes, he couldn't make the weight. His last fight at super-middle came in the Summer against Byron Mitchell.
If this is the case then why at least not have Calzaghe in a Light-Heavyweight 10 rounder? Better than nothing and could be against a fairly easy opponent and marketed as JC's move up at last...
Sky don't pay enough for non-title fights. A title fight of any sort is all they want.

Calzaghe

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:22
by jamesmcdonnell
Is that definite Bennie, the flu did sound like a load of bollocks at the time, I knew Calzaghe was struggling with weight, so it does make sense. I guess you would have the inside track though wouldn't you, you lucky boy.

Re: Does anyone know

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:23
by Goz
bennie wrote:
Goz wrote:
bennie wrote: Yes, he couldn't make the weight. His last fight at super-middle came in the Summer against Byron Mitchell.
If this is the case then why at least not have Calzaghe in a Light-Heavyweight 10 rounder? Better than nothing and could be against a fairly easy opponent and marketed as JC's move up at last...
Sky don't pay enough for non-title fights. A title fight of any sort is all they want.
Astounding. They will still have other title fights on the card and it will lay the foundations for JC's campaign in the Light-Heavyweight division next year!

Can't they make it for the Welsh Light-Heavyweight title or something?

Re: Calzaghe

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:24
by bennie
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Is that definite Bennie, the flu did sound like a load of bollocks at the time, I knew Calzaghe was struggling with weight, so it does make sense. I guess you would have the inside track though wouldn't you, you lucky boy.
Definite. But don't quote me on it, James. You know how touchy the Sports Network boss is.

Don't worry

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:29
by jamesmcdonnell
I will leave it at 'rumour had it however, that Calzaghe has actually pulled out because he cannot make the weight.'

I guess this is also why he didn't want to take on any decent fighters this year after mitchell.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:31
by REAL_DEAL
calzaghe fought in the wrong decade

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:33
by Southpaw Stylist
Yea, the wrong decade for us fans to see him get BANGED CLEAN OUT.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:34
by Priff
QUESTIONS:

How much weight would a fighter on the heavy side of Super Middle be expecting to lose in the 16 days approaching a fight?

How much weight could a Super Middle on the heavy side of SM comfortably lose if he had to?

with 16 days to go, wouldn't JC have to be pretty heavy to know he's not gonna make the weight?

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:41
by jamesmcdonnell
As I understand it, you don't want to be losing ideally more than
5% of your total bodyweight in the final week, but not many fighters
stick to that ideal. Those that do, have far longer career, Like Bernard Hopkins, who walks around very close to his fighting weight, because he is always

So for Calzaghe who weighs let us say 190 walking around, that would
be within 8 lbs of target weight in the final week.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:42
by bennie
Calzaghe could have made the weight if he really pushed himself, but had no motivation to push himself for this fight. He'll now move up to light-heavy and go after Branco.

Calzaghe

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:45
by jamesmcdonnell
Yeah, then he can give it the charley big potatoes, about how he has a 'legitimate' belt, what a crock of shit.

He could have moved up to light heavyweight a year ago, but the challenges looked too stiff then, now he knows Jones is on his way back out of the division, it seems a much better proposition.

I have to say, Antonio Tarver will kick his arse if they ever meet.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 10:52
by Priff
jamesmcdonnell wrote:As I understand it, you don't want to be losing ideally more than
5% of your total bodyweight in the final week, but not many fighters
stick to that ideal. Those that do, have far longer career, Like Bernard Hopkins, who walks around very close to his fighting weight, because he is always

So for Calzaghe who weighs let us say 190 walking around, that would
be within 8 lbs of target weight in the final week.
190 sounds about right as we all know he doesn't ballon too much and 5% of that is 9.5lbs. So even with a week to go, Joe should be able to go from his walking weight to fight weight OK. With 2.5 weeks to go, i can't see the problem.

As Bennie says, more like he doesn't fancy the effort for the likes of Mger Mqwertyuiop.

Re: Calzaghe

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 11:11
by Goz
jamesmcdonnell wrote: I have to say, Antonio Tarver will kick his arse if they ever meet.
They won't.

Posted: 20 Nov 2003, 11:20
by Kilburn
bennie wrote:He'll now move up to light-heavy and go after Branco.
I bet by the time he gets that title fight it'll be Michalszewski who's the WBA champ. Just a pity Calzaghe didn't get (or want, seemingly) the chance earlier to move up and take the German's unbeaten record.