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PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 05:37
by AntonS
Aussie Dianever Orcales is set to challenge super bantam interim titlist Sonny Manakane on Saturday.
Manakane contested & won interim title 2 weeks after Tuniacao/Iannazzo battle for vacant full title.
Since then, Tuniacao had been stripped because he failed to obtain PABA's permission (cough-up $$$) to contest non-title bout, which was well above super bantam limit over 4 rounds.....needless to say purse being nowhere near PABA's $$$$ permission.
Given the circumstance, one would think Manakane would be elevated to full title & Saturday's fight would be his 1st defence of the title.
Nope.......Out of the blue, vacant full title was sanctioned for Nov 11 in Thailand.
http://boxrec.com/title_search.php?titl ... &SUBMIT=Go
I guess, why settle for one sanction fee, when it can get two.
One can't help but wonder if Serge Yannick is wasting his time & promoter's money with his interim title??
Current titlist Sherrington, who IMO was conned into it with promise of great heights within WBA, hasn't moved above #12 since he won & defended the frigging thing. In fact he dropped to #13 at one stage. He was #15 before winning it.
In the event he ditches it, will Yannick be elevated, or if they meet in the near future...is it going to do anything for either of them???.......Probably not
Come in suckers........and long live PABA!!
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 20:30
by Sweet P
Not sure what your trying to get at Anton.
Fighters would be proud to have a PABA belt to look back at when they retire. Not all fighters can win a world title.
I judged one of the best fights I've seen a few weeks back, it was for the PABA belt between Dawson-Loporto. So to say its a waste of time is ridiculous,I'm sure Frank would disagree with you.
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 23:33
by kylamy
ben k wrote:Not sure what your trying to get at Anton.
Fighters would be proud to have a PABA belt to look back at when they retire. Not all fighters can win a world title.
I judged one of the best fights I've seen a few weeks back, it was for the PABA belt between Dawson-Loporto. So to say its a waste of time is ridiculous,I'm sure Frank would disagree with you.
Ben, Why would you even bother to reply to this know it all nobody, as you well know, he is nothing in the sport, he has no say, is just a jealous clown who lives in a filthy rat hole and would rather get on here and slag people for doing good things for the sport.
He was found out very early by two ANBF branches who punted him immediatly, and now he's just a bitter twisted alcoholic full of drugs and really, He doesn't even know what day it is, he even referred to Joel Casey as the opponent for Les Sherrington, when infact it's Serge Yannick, So he doesn't know what he's talking about as normal.
Tell Joel Casey who fought his heart out to defeat WBA #3 rated Tim Bell, in fight of the year, tell former #1 WBA Super Welterweight Daniel Dawson and Frank LoPorto, Tell anyone who has fought their hearts out to win this creditible and prestigious title that this idiot, Servasek who has never even been inside a boxing ring ever.... says this title is worthless and will do nothing for them, Mundine won the PABA titloe and it spring board him to a chance at the WBA title also. We go back as far as Darren Obah won it and went on to fight for the title, So it just shows he doesn't know what he's talking about. He does not know the PABA rules or for that matter what actually happened with Allan Jay Tuniacao, As normal, he is blowing off at the mouth, just like he did with the Quamby matter and tried to bury the Promoter before he even had a chance to defend himself.
The fool even criticized the OPBF?? what a joke, the OPBF is the oldest and most repsected regional organisation in the sports history, together with the British Boxing board of Control, the OPBF formed the WBC, but that fool would not know that, cos he just slaggs them at every opportunity, Why, because i am involved with them, no other reason. We have had some terrific PABA and OPBF Champions over the years, but they are no good cos Smelly Sadsak Servasek says so, the Mr knowlege of boxing has spoken.
Ben, he does not even know what it's like to do what these kids have done, and yet he is soooo jealous of guys like you me, Phil and a couple of others, who move and get things done for the fighters, because without them, we would not have anything to do, but he just hates the fact that we get paid to do things for the sport, and all he can do is sit in his smelly kennel and watch and criticize, because he can't and never will do anything because no-one trusts him or wants him around, cos he's a just a nobody and they don't take him seriously. oh apart from a couple of blokes who don't know any better on one of the other boxing forums.
My advice to everyone is, simply ignore him, his comments lack substance and he is just a negative old girl full of drugs and drink, he has no bearing on anything that goes on within the sport, is full of his own self importance and his only claim to fame is on the other boxing forum where he has hood winked most into thinking he knows what he's talking about.
His other only claim to fame is here on Boxrec, where I do give him credit, he does a good job inserting data, but thats where it starts and ends, and end it will very soon, because most Government departments now recognise exactly his worth and what damage he is capabale of and now they deny him information, but just to him, not you or me Ben, funny about that.
Cheers mate, I will see you Saturday night before i depart for Tokyo on another Junket Ha-ha
Brad
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 01:46
by AntonS
blah, blah, blah
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 02:03
by kylamy
AntonS wrote:blah, blah, blah
Very intelligent, Mr grub, exactly what i expected of someone so well thought of
as normal, nothing intelligent to say and nothing with any substance, so what's new
Brad

Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 02:05
by AntonS
blah blah blah
Better get new material. Repeated repeats are getting touch boring. :P
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 03:43
by kylamy
AntonS wrote:blah blah blah
Better get new material. Repeated repeats are getting touch boring. :P
The only thing boring around here, is your continued negative attacks on movers and shakers in this sport, all bought about by your jealousy and need to be recognised and thought of as important, when everyone knows the real truth.
These are not my words, but those of many who just couldn't be bothered with you continued bickering and jealous attacks and are staying away simply becuase of you, Hope you have a good weekend in your kennel, it would be good to see you atthe RSL to watch the fights on Sunday, but somehow i dont think so, you'd stink the place out and the Manager would have to ask you to leave again
Cheers

Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 03:49
by AntonS
Have a nice evening Mover & Shaker.
I'm about to put my feet up & get on grog & drugs :P
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 04:21
by kylamy
AntonS wrote:Have a nice evening Mover & Shaker.
I'm about to put my feet up & get on grog & drugs :P
Yes why wouldn't you, your feeble excuse for an argument has been blown away again, Ha-ha
OMG when will you learn Sunshine, go and play with you drunk mates, if you've got any left, Ive gotta pack for my junket to Perth this weekend, again flying Business class. I may even have a sip of the Qantas red, its a nice drop, but then again you wouldn't know that, your smell and shape has you banned from all most Airlines, they don't want to fumigate their new aircraft after you been on.
Ill be thinking of you Sunshine, as you sit in your little Kennel brooding away, thinking of another way to try and sink me and anyone else who associates with me.
I hope your sleeping well, but somehow i doubt it, some simple advice, keep watching out the window

Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 04:34
by AntonS
Don't know why you bother Bradley. Everyone in the industry is well aware you're egotistic two-faced back stabbing jerk.
Crap on all you like.....no-one is taking any notice of it.
End to your career in boxing is only matter of time.
Wasn't all that long ago when you were saying PABA was shite & secretary general Alan Kim was a dud
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Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 05:11
by kylamy
AntonS wrote:Don't know why you bother Bradley. Everyone in the industry is well aware you're egotistic two-faced back stabbing jerk.
Crap on all you like.....no-one is taking any notice of it.
End to your career in boxing is only matter of time.
Ha-ha, gees im worried about the end of my career, and just who do you think is going to end it for me druggie, YOU??
Everyone knows the only one who craps on in anything to do with boxing is you, you are well known for it, that's why your'e so bitter & twisted,

the only one with an ego is you, the only two faced jerk is you, and the only one who back stabs is you, i should know, ive still got the knife in my back.
When your'e as busy and requested as much as i am, you don't have time for an ego, you just get the job done.
Why don't you admit it ya drunk, you are just soooo jealous of me and everyone else, you and ya mate Hogg just hate the thought of me getting paid to do something i love and you can't do it because everyone hates you, also you would not know what to do.
At least i have a career that will end one day, like i said, i have a choice, you never had a choice, cos you never had a career in the start, no-one wanted you about and told you to take a hike, your a loser and everyone knows it, thats why your'e too scared to go to the fights or even show ya head, that's how much you love the sport, you won't even go, So we all don't really know why you bother, then again, i suppose youve gotta make yourself feel important somehow.
My last post for the night loser, Ive gotta pack, cos ive only got two days after Perth before heading to Japan, the second of my three junkets this month, then the following week, Thailand, oh gee i get so sick of all this travelling and the perks that go with it.
Oh, i forgot to tell you, Qantas International business class is sensational, It's standard fare for all us international Supervisors, Oh, i forgot you knew that already.
Both Ray, Phil and I, struggle all the way as we do our jobs, in 5 star hotels where the toilet is bigger than your little kennel...oh they also smell better Hahahaha
So mix some of that into your pot and smoke it, before you vomit again loser.
Bradley
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 05:20
by AntonS
Never had any interest in any organization other than ANBF SA Branch, which I served for 7 years as committee member, which you're well aware of.
FYI, numerous people (including officials) told me I should have you for slander, which I would if you had as much as a cent to your name.
Now grab your teddy, jump into WBC pyjamas & piss off to bed
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 05:39
by Charlie Liparota
The PABA interim title is what lured Kwadjo to Melbourne. It has also opened discussions between Jamie Myer and I about a Sherrington V Yannick fight early 2011. These fights would not have been possible without the title so from my perspective the money spent was very worth while. I don't have any illusions about fighting for a world title because of it, but understand that it has led to world title shots in the past and just may do the same for us. One thing I am is very strong minded so to suggest I was suckered into it does not sit very well with me.
I respect most in boxing and Brad has been upfront about everything and helpful in every way in his position as PABA supervisor. Brad works for the PABA so of course it's in his interest for PABA titles to take place because it's his business. But the thing I have found is that Brad has never once tried to impose himself or the PABA on me. I actually got offered the Kwadjo PABA fight from another source and Brad outlined the pros and cons and then I made up my own mind. Having a fight set with Sherrington is one big bonus already as this was a fight I'd seeked many times but we'd never had anything to offer them.
Anton I've always respected you and backed you up but calling me or my fighters suckers was a little below the belt. No harm done mate I'm past the point of burning bridges in this sport just please choose you words a little more careful next time.
I'm not taking sides here but just calling it like I see it.
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 05:50
by AntonS
I'm not taking sides here but just calling it like I see it.
So am I & always will
Certainly don't deserve PABA's off & on junket boy slandering & threatening me
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 06:41
by AntonS
Ha-ha, gees im worried about the end of my career, and just who do you think is going to end it for me druggie, YOU??
Nope....no need. You're doing an excellent job yourself :P
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 07:33
by AntonS
BTW business class jet setting egomaniac
Care to tell everyone how you were offered to head NSW Boxing Authority (now Combat Sports Authority) when Dave Moreland retired, but knocked it back?
And why do you now absolutely despise successful applicant ??
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 10:05
by ra2006
Really loving this thread already, carry on boys!!!
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 10:16
by AntonS
It'll get even better if con artist (back yard used car salesman) doesn't zip up
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 16:03
by Darling
Brad's doing a number on poor old Anton.

Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 19:55
by kylamy
AntonS wrote:Never had any interest in any organization other than ANBF SA Branch, which I served for 7 years as committee member, which you're well aware of.
FYI, numerous people (including officials) told me I should have you for slander, which I would if you had as much as a cent to your name.
Now grab your teddy, jump into WBC pyjamas & piss off to bed
Good Morning sadsak, hope ya slept well, i did, Now FYI, why dont you go ahead and have me for slander, don't let fear stop you sunshine, I would welcome it and laugh all the way to court, as you spend money you stole from others to pay the solicitors bills, Now let me wonder who these so called officials would be, perhaps just one Mr. Hogg, cos the rest hate you as well and you have no correspondence with any of them anyway, so lets go sunshine
Also, a couple of leading figures in Melbourne are also seeking info about your ability to pay after you slandered them for absolutely no reason, there people are the wrong people to mcuk with, but your usual rants will see you with nothing soon anyway, even the money you stole from your darling old Aunty
Also, i dont wear the WBC Pyjamas anymore, i use the ones i got from Qantas first class, where i got upgraded from Busines class on my last overseas trip, gees their comfy, thanks for asking

Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 20:02
by AntonS
I love being hated. Such is my Slovene nature :P
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 20:07
by dan h
Seriously guys this is a boxing forum, not a bitching forum.
Forget the slander talk. It is difficult to prove such a case on public forum posting and, in any event, based on the posts that both of you have provided it would seem questionable theat either of you would have the maturity required to present evidence in a court.
Maybe use each other's personal inbox to bag on another or boast about you airline class. If it is not about boxing, move it along.
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 20:11
by kylamy
dan h wrote:Seriously guys this is a boxing forum, not a bitching forum.
Forget the slander talk. It is difficult to prove such a case on public forum posting and, in any event, based on the posts that both of you have provided it would seem questionable theat either of you would have the maturity required to present evidence in a court.
Maybe use each other's personal inbox to bag on another or boast about you airline class. If it is not about boxing, move it along.
Hi Dan,
I do apologise and you are right, I just got a little sucked in by this wannabe, so i wont bother anymore with his baiting etc,
You are correct, this is a boxing forum and should be used as such, but he takes pleasure in slandering and slagging many good boxing people on here who are just doing their job, he also does it on another site, but he cannot cop it when someone gives it back to him, typical bully behind a keyboard.
But i agree with you, i will show some maturity and get off here, anyway, i got a plane to catch.
regards
Brad
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 20:34
by AntonS
But i agree with you, i will show some maturity
Impossible task for 56 year-old kid
Nice of you to give Phil Austin credit for his hard work. If I was him I get in here & rip you apart, ya frigging two-faced jerk.
Re: PABA is the way to go...advancement in WBA is guaranteed
Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 07:37
by dberry
dan h wrote:Seriously guys this is a boxing forum, not a bitching forum.
Forget the slander talk. It is difficult to prove such a case on public forum posting and, in any event, based on the posts that both of you have provided it would seem questionable theat either of you would have the maturity required to present evidence in a court.
Maybe use each other's personal inbox to bag on another or boast about you airline class. If it is not about boxing, move it along.
Dan, Dan, Dan
We arew all boxing fans but please allow this little soap opera to be played out :P
Brad, Anton
Please carry on however
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