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Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 15:43
by Ambling Alp
It's time for another election.
As alway, anyone with 75% or more will be elected. If no one gets that high of a %, the fighter(s) with the most votes will be elected.

This time voters must select 15-25 fighters, and they must vote only for fighters who received at least 2 votes in the last election. (Those fighters are listed in alphabetical order below)

This will increase the chances of a fighters getting 75% of the vote.

This also reduces the chances of having to resort to Inducting the fighter(s) who got the most votes (which can lead people to not vote for someone because that fighter would have had one more vote than everyone else and would be the only fighter elected. There are other quirks that can happen as well.)
It is easier to tally the votes since not so many fighters will be getting votes.

We are only doing it this way every other election. Next time, voters can vote for anyone that is not already in and has not been active for 10 years.

The deadline is Noon, (Central Time) Monday, November 15.

Vote for 15-25 out of the following 38 eligible fighters:

Sammy Angott
Jimmy Barry
Battling Battalino
Jimmy Bivins
Jack Blackburn
Joe Brown
Miquel Canto
Young Corbett III
Jem Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Frankie Genaro
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Young Griffo
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
Johnny Kilbane
John Henry Lewis
Benny Lynch
Sammy Mandell
Kid McCoy
Bob Montgomery
Owen Moran
Mike O'Dowd
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Rodriquez
Vincente Saldivar
Freddie Steele
Young Stribling
Lew Tendler
Rodrigo Valdez
Jersey Joe Walcott
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Fritzie Zivic

To get things started here is my ballot:
Sammy Angott
Jimmy Barry
Bat Battalino
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Miquel Canto
Young Corbett III
Jem Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Beau Jack
Johnny Kilbane
John Henry Lewis
Sammy Mandell
Kid McCoy
Bob Montgomery
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Rodriguez
Vincente Saldivar
Freddie Steele
Young Stribling
Freddie Welsh

Lets have some fun!

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 15:58
by Jaywheel
Sammy Angott
Jimmy Bivins
Young Corbett III
Gene Fullmer
Tommy Gibbons
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
Johnny Kilbane
John Henry Lewis
Benny Lynch
Kid McCoy
Bob Montgomery
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Freddie Steele
Young Stribling
Jersey Joe Walcott
Harry Wills

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 17:39
by SaadOffTheDeck
Differences aside, this is very cool.

Jimmy Bivins
Jack Blackburn
Joe Brown
Miguel Canto
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Frankie Genaro
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Joe Jeanette
John Henry Lewis
Mike O'Dowd
Eusebio Pedroza
Luis Rodriguez
Young Stribling
Rodrigo Valdez
Jersey Joe walcott
Harry Wills

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 17:51
by Seamus
SAMMY ANGOTT
JIMMY BARRY
JIMMY BIVINS
MIGUEL CANTO
YOUNG CORBETT III
JIM DRISCOLL
GENE FULLMER
FRANKIE GENARO
MIKE GIBBONS
TOMMY GIBBONS
YOUNG GRIFFO
BEAU JACK
JOHNNY KILBANE
JOHN HENRY LEWIS
BENNY LYNCH
SAMMY MANDELL
KID McCOY
BOB MONTGOMERY
MIKE O'DOWD
LUIS RODRIGUEZ
FREDDIE STEELE
YOUNG STRIBLING
LEW TENDLER
FREDDIE WELSH
FRITZIE ZIVIC

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 18:56
by elmersalsa
Here are mine:
Sammy Angott
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Miguel Canto
Jim Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Pete "Kid" Herman....Is he already in the hall of boxrec.com?
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
Johnny Kilbane
Benny Lynch
Bob Montgomery
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Vicente Saldivar
Jersey Joe Walcott
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Fritzie Zivic

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 19:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
Anybody want to share why they would leave John Henry Lewis off?

Edit: Not saying anybody is right or wrong. Just curious because he is an absolute no brainer for me.

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 19:36
by SaadOffTheDeck
BarryWashington wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Anybody want to share why they would leave John Henry Lewis off?

Edit: Not saying anybody is right or wrong. Just curious because he is an absolute no brainer for me.
Cause he got knocked out in the 1st round by almighty Joe Louis! Haha, I'm kidding. I didn't put him on because I knew I'd throw him on the next ballot selection.


What makes you put a Saldivar over him? They are all great fighters, so it's subjective. You can make up to 25 picks so I figured you had him below all of the guys you listed. Lewis resume is really sick, he could be the most deserving fighter on that list.

Rosenbloom x2, Scozza multiple times, Fox, Elmer Ray, Gainer and many more. He is a really unappreciated great imo. Top 50 all time.

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 01 Nov 2010, 19:48
by Seamus
I've had John Henry Lewis on my ballot since January 2007.

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 02 Nov 2010, 02:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
There is no right or wrong, I was just wondering where you or Elmer were coming from. I'd include Lewis if you could only pick 3.

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 02 Nov 2010, 06:05
by Ezzard
Saad’s electioneering made me reconsider Lewis and I believe he’s made a good call.

To everyone who hasn’t picked Owen Moran…please check the guy who was your final pick to go in and compare them. Draws with Attell and Driscoll and split fights with Wolgast prove he was their equal.

I think he should definitely go before Aaron Pryor.


Sammy Angott
Jimmy Barry
Jimmy Bivins
Jack Blackburn
Joe Brown
Young Corbett III
Jem Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
Johnny Kilbane
John Henry Lewis
Benny Lynch
Sammy Mandell
Bob Montgomery
Owen Moran
Eusebio Pedroza
Luis Rodriquez
Vincente Saldivar
Freddie Steele
Young Stribling
Rodrigo Valdez
Fritzie Zivic

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 02 Nov 2010, 13:32
by Ambling Alp
elmersalsa wrote:Here are mine:
Sammy Angott
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Miguel Canto
Jim Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Pete "Kid" Herman....Is he already in the hall of boxrec.com?
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
Johnny Kilbane
Benny Lynch
Bob Montgomery
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Vicente Saldivar
Jersey Joe Walcott
Freddie Welsh
Harry Wills
Fritzie Zivic
Pete Herman is not in the BoxRec Hall of Fame. He is not eligible this time because he did not get two votes last time. He will be eligible next time when anyone that has not been elected and has not been in action for 10 years will be eligible.

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 02 Nov 2010, 13:47
by wsbuf
Sammy Angott
Battalino
Blackburn
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Young Corbett III
Gene Fullmer
Frankie Genaro
Mike Gibbons
Tom Gibbons
Johnny Kilbane
Montgomery
Young Stribling
Jersey Joe Walcott
Fritzie Zivic

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 03 Nov 2010, 12:59
by CNorkusJr
Angott
Bivins
Battalino
Fullmer
Gibbons
J.Kilbane
B.Montgomery
O.Moran
Luis Rodriguez
Beau Jack
Joe Brown
Young Stribling
JJ Walcott
Zivic
Kid McCoy

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 05 Nov 2010, 23:46
by CNorkusJr
CNorkusJr wrote:Angott
Bivins
Battalino
Fullmer
Gibbons
J.Kilbane
B.Montgomery
O.Moran
Luis Rodriguez
Beau Jack
Joe Brown
Young Stribling
JJ Walcott
Zivic
Kid McCoy
Clarification- Tommy Gibbons

Re: Boxrec Hall of Fame Ballot (November 2010)

Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 12:00
by BoxBuzz
Jersey Joe Walcott
Kid McCoy
Flash Elorde
Joe Jeanette
Harry Wills
Battling Battalino
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Rodrigo Valdez
Gene Fulmer
Jimmy Bivins
Fritz Zivic
Young Corbett III
Vincente Saldivar
Lew Tendler
Eusebio Pedroza
Rodrigo Valdez