Can Martin Rogan get his self back in the title race?
Posted: 08 Nov 2010, 13:00
Can he work his way to a with the haye/harrison winner or the klitschko brothers?
Be fair, Oli. I believe Roggie, if on form and against the right person, probably Ditrimenko or Sosnowski, could win that Euro belt. He did after all beat Skelton who was the then European champ, so he may technically never have won that belt, but he beat the title-holder when he was a massive underdog.oliverfennell wrote:A losing Euro shot is probably the best he can hope for.
Oh I agree, he's not going to go any further.... depends what happens on Sat though. I think though if Dereck Chisora can get a world title fight.... better fighter yes,..... better story, better ticket seller, no - then why not Rogan.oliverfennell wrote:A losing Euro shot is probably the best he can hope for. I'd say world level is too far, especially at his age and coming off a layoff. Having said that, all of his best three results (Prizefighter, Harrison, Skelton) were of course big upsets, so who knows? But the second loss to Sexton doesn't augur well for him going further than he already has.
Harrison fighting for a world title is bad enough but I think I would give up on Heavyweight Boxing for sometime should Harrison and Rogan face off for a world title.stujones wrote:If Harrison wins then surely its an easy fight to make, problems might be with Chagaev demanding a match. I'm sure Rogan won't mind working with Hearn again. Pre-injury, Rogan was one of the biggest ticket sellers in the heavyweight devision and I am sure Sky will take it. I have the feeling Haye vs Harrison is going to do very well.
True, he's more deseving than Aud though.yiddo14 wrote:Harrison fighting for a world title is bad enough but I think I would give up on Heavyweight Boxing for sometime should Harrison and Rogan face off for a world title.stujones wrote:If Harrison wins then surely its an easy fight to make, problems might be with Chagaev demanding a match. I'm sure Rogan won't mind working with Hearn again. Pre-injury, Rogan was one of the biggest ticket sellers in the heavyweight devision and I am sure Sky will take it. I have the feeling Haye vs Harrison is going to do very well.
Rogan had a great run but it seems to be over now.
It will be a further comparison with Lennox Lewis - retiring as champion!stujones wrote:Audley will retire with the WBA if he wins it. He keeps saying "mission complete". He's long admitted he has left it to late to make a "legacy" in the pro's and he wouldn't really have much to fight for after.
In terms of who-beat-who, yes, but not on recent results. Rogan still has to "earn" a shot, and before anyone says Harrison didn't either, he did at least earn it "on paper", i.e. the EBU title bringing with it a WBA ranking. Not saying that's fair, just how it works.stujones wrote:True, he's more deseving than Aud though.yiddo14 wrote:Harrison fighting for a world title is bad enough but I think I would give up on Heavyweight Boxing for sometime should Harrison and Rogan face off for a world title.stujones wrote:If Harrison wins then surely its an easy fight to make, problems might be with Chagaev demanding a match. I'm sure Rogan won't mind working with Hearn again. Pre-injury, Rogan was one of the biggest ticket sellers in the heavyweight devision and I am sure Sky will take it. I have the feeling Haye vs Harrison is going to do very well.
Rogan had a great run but it seems to be over now.
I think beating a reigning EBU champion in a 12 rounder should have warranted a similar ranking with the WBC (which is the traditional belt to give EBU rankings, not the WBA but there you go) as a manufactured EBU title fight between two guys who really shouldn't have been in the top 15 in Europe. How did Audley justify a shot at THAT belt and not Rogan? Who did Rogan BEAT and still not been deemed rankable.oliverfennell wrote:In terms of who-beat-who, yes, but not on recent results. Rogan still has to "earn" a shot, and before anyone says Harrison didn't either, he did at least earn it "on paper", i.e. the EBU title bringing with it a WBA ranking. Not saying that's fair, just how it works.stujones wrote:True, he's more deseving than Aud though.yiddo14 wrote: Harrison fighting for a world title is bad enough but I think I would give up on Heavyweight Boxing for sometime should Harrison and Rogan face off for a world title.
Rogan had a great run but it seems to be over now.
True enough, and I did always think it odd that Rogan didn't qualify for a Euro shot. However if you're talking about Harrison's shot at the same belt, at the time Audley fought for it, Rogan had subsequently lost twice, plus was injured. If you were to argue anyone deserved it more than Harrison at that time, it would have been Sexton.stujones wrote:I think beating a reigning EBU champion in a 12 rounder should have warranted a similar ranking with the WBC (which is the traditional belt to give EBU rankings, not the WBA but there you go) as a manufactured EBU title fight between two guys who really shouldn't have been in the top 15 in Europe. How did Audley justify a shot at THAT belt and not Rogan? Who did Rogan BEAT and still not been deemed rankable.oliverfennell wrote:In terms of who-beat-who, yes, but not on recent results. Rogan still has to "earn" a shot, and before anyone says Harrison didn't either, he did at least earn it "on paper", i.e. the EBU title bringing with it a WBA ranking. Not saying that's fair, just how it works.stujones wrote: True, he's more deseving than Aud though.