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Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 11:52
by bruthead
Pugilist: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Audley Harrison, a mentally unhinged man, was humiliated by David Haye for the entertainment of a baying mob.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16112010/ ... rison.html

David Haye, before the fight, predicting what would happen at the opening bell:
“When Audley is left there on his own with a pair of 10oz gloves, me across the ring looking like a caged animal and a referee who he knows can count to ten, you’re going to see a man who is petrified.”

Two days ago I blamed David Haye for the pitiful heavyweight title fight that occurred in Manchester on Saturday.

Comments came flooding in and at least 95% were telling me how wrong I was. Undoubtedly I had misjudged the mood of boxing fans. I realise I was basing my thoughts on a very different set of assumptions to most people, assumptions I need to explain.

On Saturday I found the Haye-Harrison fight a disquieting spectacle. Having defended the event last week I was sickened by what I saw. Although I never argued that Haye-Harrison was likely to be a competitive fight, I still thought it would be a fight, not the ritual humiliation of an affable but emotionally fragile man.

It was perhaps only when I saw Audley in his dressing room at the end of the night, a completely broken man, that the full horror of what had occurred hit home. I assumed that anyone who saw those pictures could do little other than feel sorry for Harrison.

I was wrong. Many people wanted to see Harrison given a good beating because they consider him a joke, a man who talks the talk but can’t back it up. Perhaps Audley is guilty of those charges but he is also a human being, not the villain in a WWE pantomime.

Long ago life played a cruel trick on Audley Harrison. He was an excellent amateur boxer and everyone told him he would succeed fellow Olympic champion Lennox Lewis as heavyweight king, and earn tens of millions as a result.

However, as soon as Audley removed the amateur headgear and donned professional gloves it became clear that he is scared of being punched. The confident, aggressive, talented boxer of Sydney 2000 has not been seen in the professional ranks.

Consequently Harrison could never fulfil his amateur potential but Audley, now 39, has tragically never been able to let go of his dream. Even after Saturday night he refused to retire and said, “This is mission incomplete; it's not completed.”

Harrison did not make all those big predictions about himself because he is deliberately deceitful. The truth is that Harrison exaggerates his talents and his potential because he is completely delusional.

Audley is unable to resolve his belief that he is destined to be heavyweight champion with the reality that he is scared to fight by the professional code. Frankly, he is mentally unwell.

Haye-Harrison was not a boxing match. What we witnessed was the psychological meltdown of Audley Harrison. And the crowd cheered. And fireworks were fired in exaltation. And Harrison was booed one last time.

Deep, deep, down, Harrison knows the truth. The closer he got to the ring the less he believed his own hype. He remembered his four professional defeats to fighters a class below Haye. He remembered getting knocked out by Michael Sprott, a far less explosive puncher than Haye. He remembered his fear of being punched. By the time the first bell rang on Saturday, Audley was petrified.

Perhaps Audley Harrison should never have accepted the offer to fight Haye. But how many boxers with wives and children to support would refuse such a hefty payday so late in their careers? For Harrison, a delusional man once promised the heavyweight title and big money fights, it seemed that destiny had come calling at last.

Even though Harrison is not cut out for professional prizefighting, certainly not at David Haye’s level, he faced his fears head on. Those fears got the better of him. Harrison was terrified but he got into the ring and got beaten up, all to provide for his family. Is that really contemptible?

Personally, I find Haye’s actions far more troubling. Haye did not have to fight Audley Harrison. This was a voluntary defence of his WBA title. Haye was not fighting a man put before him; he was fighting an opponent of his choosing.

Boxing champions, from time to time, can be afforded fights against big name, low risk opponents to earn themselves a good payday, provided those opponents are not so old or shop-worn that their health is at serious risk.

Harrison has not taken many beatings, he is not a fighter long past his prime, so I did not fear for his physical health. Only too late did I realise that it was his mental health which was imperilled.

Haye questioned Audley’s sanity before the fight, calling Audley, “mentally weak…delusional…a little bit crazy,” but this could then be dismissed as typical boxing trash talk.

However, the way Harrison psychologically unravelled in the ring, exactly as Haye had predicted, suggests that Haye had grasped the extent of Harrison’s mental problems all along. Making that realisation sickened me to my stomach.

Haye, once a close friend of Harrison, understood better than anyone that Audley was psychologically unstable and would freeze on the big stage, which he did, allowing Haye to knock him out at will.

There have been mismatches before which have misled the public but rarely have they been this tragic. Bruno-Bugner was another rather farcical British heavyweight fight, but it was still thankfully free of such pathos.

That is because Joe Bugner, the man paid to lose in 1987, was under no illusions about what was going to happen, nor was he scared. He came in overweight, defended cagily for a while and then fell over in the eighth round.

Bugner returned to his adopted home of Australia with a smile on his face and a fat paycheque. Perhaps the British public was deceived back then that the fight would be more competitive than it was. If so, Bugner was in on it.

If a deception was perpetrated on Saturday then Audley Harrison was the biggest victim. After the fight, crying in his dressing room, he did not look like a man who had just swindled a pot of money. He looked like a man who had suffered a nervous breakdown. Whatever he was paid, it was a small sum for a man’s dignity.

Haye knew that he could make himself over £5m for this because, in his words, “there's enough people in Britain who want to see Audley get completely destroyed and annihilated.”

Audley Harrison is a kind-hearted guy. He may have talked himself up but he is not in the habit of talking his opponents down. Haye didn’t care. Haye knew that Harrison would be a flailing naïf on Saturday and yet, because Harrison is unpopular, Haye thought it was okay to take advantage of him.

Haye, having destroyed the cowering Harrison, celebrated as though he had done something worthy of praise. He bragged: “At the weigh-in I could see him trembling…the fight was going to be short and sweet.”

To recap: a mentally unhinged man with a fear of being hit was offered a large sum of money to take a beating from one of the world’s hardest hitting men, and all because ten years before, in a different sporting discipline, he had been a champion.

This man, fighting his fear by deluding himself, spent two months trying to psychologically prepare himself for a bout he knew, deep down, would be his worst nightmare.

He then returned from exile to his native country, where he has long been a pariah, to meet his younger, hard-punching opponent, an opponent pandering to a baying mob who paid just to see him humiliated.

The crowd laughed at him. They booed his entrance. They cheered his destruction. Then they chanted, “You’re shit and you know you are.”

I wrote about boxing and business before the fight but on Saturday night such topics were irrelevances. This was barbarism. This was not about boxing or business. This was about right and wrong.

If I had realised just how tortured Audley Harrison was going into this fight I would never have advocated it.

In a less analytical article on Sunday, not having fully processed what I had witnessed the night before, but having realised that it was just plain wrong, I said, “David Haye, shame on you.” I say it again.

James Garner / Eurosport

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:01
by Syntax Error
Very good article & 100% correct IMO.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:11
by Lenny
MachoMan09 wrote:Is James Garner a psychiatrist or has he just decided that Audley is "mentally unwell" and put it to print?
:TU:
What I was going to say

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:14
by Newport Daz
Interesting article, but don't agree with it. The author paints Audley as mentally ill. He's not. Oliver Mcall was mentally ill when he fought Lennox the 2nd time. This situation is totally different. While it's true Audley isn't a face first slugger and doesn't enjoy being punched in the face, show me a boxer that does, especially a heavyweight with the punch of David Haye. I genuinley believe that Audley wanted to bide is time, try and take Haye into the later rounds and open up then. By this Author's sentiments half the boxers that Tyson fought were mentally ill because they signed for a fight they thought they would win and then became intimidated by Tyson on fight night. Audley Vs Haye is less than a sham than Wlad Vs Chisora that's for sure.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:22
by bruthead
MachoMan09 wrote:Is James Garner a psychiatrist or has he just decided that Audley is "mentally unwell" and put it to print?
I wrote the article. No, I am not a psychiatrist. I am not going to try to diagnose what is wrong with Audley Harrison. I develop an argument that Audley is mentally unhinged. You can disagree. But do you really think Audley is all there mentally? Give me your reading of the man’s behaviour.

I do know this 100%: before the fight Haye said Harrison was “mentally weak…delusional…a little bit crazy.” Did David Haye believe Audley to be mentally unwell? Definitely.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:31
by JamesH
I think it's ok to say he's mentally weak, but that is different to being mental unwell. I'm sure Haye said mentally weak too.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:35
by dondada
bruthead wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:I do know this 100%: before the fight Haye said Harrison was “mentally weak…delusional…a little bit crazy.” Did David Haye believe Audley to be mentally unwell? Definitely.
I'd be amazed if Haye thought Audley to be 'mentally unwell'. That's a step too far for me.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:35
by Chambers2
bruthead wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:Is James Garner a psychiatrist or has he just decided that Audley is "mentally unwell" and put it to print?
I wrote the article. No, I am not a psychiatrist. I am not going to try to diagnose what is wrong with Audley Harrison. I develop an argument that Audley is mentally unhinged. You can disagree. But do you really think Audley is all there mentally? Give me your reading of the man’s behaviour.

I do know this 100%: before the fight Haye said Harrison was “mentally weak…delusional…a little bit crazy.” Did David Haye believe Audley to be mentally unwell? Definitely.
I don't know Audley well enough to make such strong comments, do you?

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:36
by bruthead

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:38
by Lenny
bruthead wrote:I develop an argument that Audley is mentally unhinged.
But what qualifies you to do so?
Sorry for the Horse like question

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:41
by Roars Like Me
Bruthead, you may be able to clear this up for me as it's bothering me. Directly after the interview stopped, bearing in mind the interviewer said Audley looks close to tears (and he did imho), he inexplicably smiled and laughed at someone within a nano second? I just found that really odd and nobody has picked up on it.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:47
by jamesmcdonnell
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
bruthead wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:I do know this 100%: before the fight Haye said Harrison was “mentally weak…delusional…a little bit crazy.” Did David Haye believe Audley to be mentally unwell? Definitely.
I'd be amazed if Haye thought Audley to be 'mentally unwell'. That's a step too far for me.
I'd say that Audley is certainly bordering on being mentally unwell. He is delusional in the extreme - and I think you could call that being a little crazy.

However, he has not been adjudged by a medical panel to be mentally unfit, so this article goes a little too far, though I agree with some of the gist.

I don't think Haye can be blamed for giving Audley a shot at the title for big money.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:48
by J
i think its a terrible article written in poor taste.

To condemn someone as mentally ill and then blame haye for jumping on that and exploiting it is too much.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:52
by bruthead
Chambers2 wrote: I don't know Audley well enough to make such strong comments, do you?
It's a fair question. Look at it this way: I wholeheartedly believe in what I wrote. I did not write it just to stir the pot. I wrote it because I thought that 'fight' was an utter, utter tragedy and because nobody seemed to have called Haye out on what he did.

If I am completely wrong in my reading of events then I have called Audley Harrison "mentally unwell" incorrectly. After all the things people have said about Audley after this fight that is far from the worst. Nonetheless I would be ashamed of myself for calling a man "mentally unwell" in error. If you can persuade me that Harrison's actions were those of a completely sane man, I will apologise.

However, if I am right then I have called Haye out on a far more contemptible act than calling a man "mentally unwell." I believe Haye is getting away with something really terrible so I have spoken out.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:57
by J
jesus christ on a bike...did anyone call out tyson on his smashing of julius francis who sold advertson his boots, did anyone call out tyson dismantling ettienne or seldon? how bout bruno picking on chuck gardner....or beating up old man bugner?
to suggest that haye deliberately targetted someone mentally deranged and exploiting is more deranged than the initial accusation.

you need help.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 12:59
by Glyn Leach
Bruthead, the world's most controversial boxing writer!

Nice piece of writing and interesting, but some big assumptions made regarding Harrison's state of mind. Clearly he has had psychological problems when it comes to fighting, but I don't think there's any justification for the emotive, 'mentally ill' diagnosis — and you certainly have diagnosed him if you feel able to make such a statement. Psychological difficulties in a sports-related area do not equate to 'mentally ill' by most people's understanding of the term, I'd argue. Maybe I've just become used to heavyweight eccentrics, and Audley certainly is one. But I think you may have overstated a little.

It's sad the way his career has gone but I don't think it could be termed tragic, not in the greater sense, which is where you appear to be going with your argument. I certainly don't think Harrison is now a broken man, nor is he some sort of basket case. David Haye didn't drag him out of a lunatic asylum by the dreadlocks and beat him senseless in a Colosseum, after an afternoon undercard of Christians vs Lions matches. Audley lost a fight, that's all. He'll be fine. I've seen plenty of fighters crying in their dressing rooms after defeats. They got over it and so will Audley.

As I said, nice piece of writing, but a tad melodramatic perhaps.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:03
by jamesmcdonnell
Glyn Leach wrote:Bruthead, the world's most controversial boxing writer!

Nice piece of writing and interesting, but some big assumptions made regarding Harrison's state of mind. Clearly he has had psychological problems when it comes to fighting, but I don't think there's any justification for the emotive, 'mentally ill' diagnosis — and you certainly have diagnosed him if you feel able to make such a statement. Psychological difficulties in a sports-related area do not equate to 'mentally ill' by most people's understanding of the term, I'd argue. Maybe I've just become used to heavyweight eccentrics, and Audley certainly is one. But I think you may have overstated a little.

It's sad the way his career has gone but I don't think it could be termed tragic, not in the greater sense, which is where you appear to be going with your argument. I certainly don't think Harrison is now a broken man, nor is he some sort of basket case. David Haye didn't drag him out of a lunatic asylum by the dreadlocks and beat him senseless in a Colosseum, after an afternoon undercard of Christians vs Lions matches. Audley lost a fight, that's all. He'll be fine. I've seen plenty of fighters crying in their dressing rooms after defeats. They got over it and so will Audley.

As I said, nice piece of writing, but a tad melodramatic perhaps.

I would say that in fact Audley's career is a perfect depiction of a Shakespearian tragedy. A classicly flawed human being whose flaws ultimately prove his undoing, after a glittering start.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:05
by SteveDow
bruthead wrote:
Chambers2 wrote: I don't know Audley well enough to make such strong comments, do you?
It's a fair question. Look at it this way: I wholeheartedly believe in what I wrote. I did not write it just to stir the pot. I wrote it because I thought that 'fight' was an utter, utter tragedy and because nobody seemed to have called Haye out on what he did.

If I am completely wrong in my reading of events then I have called Audley Harrison "mentally unwell" incorrectly. After all the things people have said about Audley after this fight that is far from the worst. Nonetheless I would be ashamed of myself for calling a man "mentally unwell" in error. If you can persuade me that Harrison's actions were those of a completely sane man, I will apologise.

However, if I am right then I have called Haye out on a far more contemptible act than calling a man "mentally unwell." I believe Haye is getting away with something really terrible so I have spoken out.
I do think you write very well and I enjoy your articles but you really need to be very careful about making statements which are potentially untrue in writing as, if untrue, they constitute libel and could get you and the company you work for into a very difficult situation indeed.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:05
by Glyn Leach
Bruthead, you've got a mate! Get James's number.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:14
by bruthead
We have got a little sidetracked with our analysis of what exactly it constitues to be "mentally unwell" but I understand why people consider that important. Those were my words. I think even people who disagree with them could substitute them for alternatives which still reflect very badly on Haye. Haye himself called Harrison "mentally weak...delusional...a little crazy" and said he'd "lost his marbles a little." That was all in the space of one interview. Were I to trawl all the many, many pre-fight interviews I would not be surprised if he said something even stronger.

This was how I summarised my reading of events: "Audley Harrison, a mentally unhinged man, was humiliated by David Haye for the entertainment of a baying mob."

Replace "mentally unhinged" with how you perceive Harrison and then follow the logic through. I should think it still reflects badly on what Haye did.

Boxing is a sport of often troubling moralities. I am a boxing fan but I do not turn a blind eye to these ethical questions just because I have accepted that boxing can be morally acceptable. Sometimes what happens in the ring is not morally acceptable. I believe this was one such occasion. That's why I wrote the article.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:22
by Syntax Error
J wrote:jesus christ on a bike...did anyone call out tyson on his smashing of julius francis who sold advertson his boots, did anyone call out tyson dismantling ettienne or seldon? how bout bruno picking on chuck gardner....or beating up old man bugner?
to suggest that haye deliberately targetted someone mentally deranged and exploiting is more deranged than the initial accusation.

you need help.
Tyson & Bruno were not heavyweight champions at the top of their games when those fights took place.

In fact, in Tyson's case, he was a washed up shell of a fighter who was trying to blag a title shot (Francis & Etienne fights) off the back of some faded memories, so you could understand why he'd take those fights.

Against Seldon, he was the champ, but he was well past his best & he just fighting the man who held the belt at the time & many people slated Seldon for bitching out of that fight.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 13:24
by Glyn Leach
I think you're a damned good writer Bruthead. I also think that we're quite a knowledgeable readership when it comes to boxing. Maybe the fit isn't quite right, though. I think you'd make an absolute killing with that sort of article in the right place, perhaps a Loaded-type mag or even a 'quality newspaper' sports supplement. I'm not sure that the majority of hardened boxing fans can buy into your imagery though. But there's an 'audience' for it, definitely.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 15:40
by hurlock
ive never read such bullsh1t in my life :!: boxing is plain & simple & audley is mentally unhinged when approaching a boxing ring :!:
he's an itellectual man who cant battle with the demon's of preparing for battle, even when he's done well he was never really over that hurdle & the sprott ko has made him worst.

he done great at sydney & i felt proud of him at that time & i'll ignore his pro career.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 15:53
by yiddo14
Shock , horror, quick, tell the world....pro athlete freezes on his big night!!????!!

I'm sure in saying Audley is the first in the history of sport?

What a complete load of shit. Nicely written, and I agree that plenty out there will want to read it and believe it, knowing no better and looking for a sensational angle BUT, Audley, like many other sportsmen before him and after, simply freezes when the moment matters in the pro game.

The people most at fault for this fight are those that sanctioned it. Audley Harrison had no business fighting for a Heavyweight Title because he isn't good enough. There, another simple reason.

Re: Article: The Tragic Truth of Haye-Harrison

Posted: 16 Nov 2010, 15:59
by thepocketrocket
Yes...I do believe Hayemaker have plenty to answer for...leave me out of the mentally ill/ freezer debate but they were in on conning the general public into thinking this was a competetive match up and not some joke...they now run into the distance with their bag of cash while Audley gets slammed.

I find it all very distasteful