BoxRec

Alright guys? It’s been a while since I have spoke to many of you and I do hope that you are keeping well. So, I have just finished updating the stats for this season. (As I have the evening off, and I have neglected the BRS recently) so I thought it was time to get reacquainted and contribute to this fine place.

As there is speculation that this season might be ending shortly (Week 30), I am going to throw some stats (annual stats by now) out there. I do this in the hope that Managers my reference them at a later date, namely whenever The noble Commish decides to publish the official Hall Of Fame vote.

I have broken down the stats to 3 simple categories:
Accolades (which include the two tournaments this season and records)
Unified Championships (because being a Unified Champion is a big deal)
And Individual Titles (which is a complete title haul of the boxer)

This season, things have been have been more open than the usual norm. There are almost a dozen boxers who have achieved significant honours this season. And, in the end, each Manager is given one vote for the HOF. I have laboured on this in the hope that people try to be objective. Obviously Managers will be voting their own boxers, but maybe objectivity will shine through and a new boxer will enter the golden Hall Of Fame.

CRITICISM OF MY STATS:
There is an argument that stats can be misleading and that they do not tell the full story. That is true, people can take what they want from the stats. However the stats are accurate and while they may influence or alter people’s opinions, I am afraid that is just the name of the game. However, in all honesty there are hundreds of fights every season, and it’s practically impossible to go into each fight with strong in-depth detail, there is just too many.

In the past there has been criticism of only highlighting the title holders, particularly when certain Managers start mentioning specific victories that their fighters have won and in what week. But as I said earlier there is just too many fights to realistically take into account. And there was/will be many, many great fights to read that are not title fights.

This system does have loop-holes, I will be the first to admit that. For example, look at poor old Miguel Cotto. He won his first two World Title fights, but lost his third and as such lost his high ranking and his titles.
Whereas, other fighters won the Undisputed title and they may have lost more World Title fights than Cotto.
However, despite that. Opinions and sympathies must be ignored and boxers achievements must be recognised. These stats don’t offer clarity, however the truth is there in front of you all.

THE ONLY ANSWER:
But objectivity is the key, it might not seem fair, but we have to be neutral even against fairness. These records have been collated and cross-referenced you may check the validity of them if you wish, but I assure you that they are accurate.

Stats can be manipulative, but here they are, because the lineage of the World Titles MUST be recorded....
Lest they be lost in the sands of time. And if that sad thing does happen. The what is it all for?

If I do not get speaking to you, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.

Sugar Ray Robinson:
Accolades:
Original WBC Champion (week 7)
The FIRST Undisputed Champion
The only 3 time Undisputed Champion
The first man to unify all 5 titles.
Most weeks ranked as The Number One.
Best Record this season (so far)

Unified Honours:
X3 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 10, 13 + 31)
X2 time Triple Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF in Week 9) + (WBC, WBO, IBF in Week 25)
X1 time Double Champion (WBO + IBF in Week 26)

Individual Titles:
X5 time IBF Champion (Weeks 9, 13, 24, 31, 35)
X4 time WBC Champion (Weeks 7, 13, 25, 31)
X4 time WBO Champion (Weeks 10, 13, 21, 31)
X3 time WBA Champion (Weeks 9, 13, 31)
X3 time IBO Champion Weeks 10, 13, 31)
***

Henry Armstrong:
Accolades:
Original IBF Champion (Week 7)

Unified Honours:
X1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 11)
X1 time Double Champion (WBA, IBO in Week 26)

Individual Titles:
X3 time IBF Champion (Weeks 7, 11, 23)
X2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 11, 26)
X2 time IBO Champion (Weeks 11, 26)
X1 time WBC Champion (Week 11)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 11)
***

Carmen Basillio:
Accolades:
Kid Gavilan Tournament Quarter Finalist

Unified Honours:
X2 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 14, 18)

Individual Titles:
X2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 14, 18)
X2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 14, 18)
X2 time WBO Champion (Weeks 14, 18)
X2 time IBF Champion (Weeks 14, 18)
X2 time IBO Champion (Weeks 14, 18)
***
 
Mickey Walker:
Accolades:
Kid Gavilan Tournament Champion

Unified Honours:
X1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 16)

Individual Titles:
X1 time WBC Champion (Week 16)
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 16)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 16)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 16)
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 16)
***

Paul Williams:
Accolades: None

Unified Honours:
X1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 17)

Individual Titles:
X1 time WBC Champion (Week 17)
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 17)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 17)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 17)
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 17)
***

Jose Napoles:
Accolades:
Longest Title Reign (WBU title from Week 8-22, 14 title defences)
ONLY man to hold all six titles.
Second man to unify the 5 titles
Million Dollar Tournament Quarter Finalist

Unified Honours:
X1 time Udispued Champion (Week 29)
X2 time Triple Champion (WBC, WBA, IBO in Week 22) & (WBC, WBO, IBF in Week 28
X2 time Double Champion (WBC, IBO in Week 23) & (WBA, IBO in Week 24)

Individual Titles:
X2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 22, 28)
X2 time WBA Champion (Week 22, 29)
X2 time IBO Champion (Week 22, 29)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 28)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 28)
X1 time WBU Champion (Week 8
***

Manny Pacquiao:
Accolades:
The Only Quadruple Champion (to date)
Keeps the WBO title.

Unified Honours:
Quadruple Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO in Week 20)

Individual Titles:
X2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 20, 24)
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 20)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 35)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 20)
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 20)
***

Miguel Cotto:
Accolades:
Original WBA Champion
1st man to unify world titles (WBA, IBF in Week 8

Unified Honours:
X1 time Double Champion (WBA, IBF in Week 8

Individual Titles:
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 7)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 8
***

Pernell Whitaker:
Accolades:
Original IBO Champion
Million Dollar Tournament Semi Finalist

Unified Honours:
X1 time Double Champion (WBO + IBO in week 9)

Individual Titles:
X1 time WBO Champion Week 9)
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 7)
***

Sugar Ray Leonard:
Accolades:
Million Dollar Tournament Champion
Keeps the WBA title.
Keeps the IBO title.

Unified Honours:
X1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 32)

Individual Titles:
X1 time WBC Champion (Week 32)
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 32)
X1 time WBO Champion (Week 32)
X1 time IBF Champion (Week 32)
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 32)
***

Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Accolades:
Million Dollar Tournament 2nd Round
Keeps the WBC title.

Unified Honours:
X1 time Double Champion (WBA, IBO in week 28

Individual Titles
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 35)
X1 time WBA Champion (Week 28
X1 time IBO Champion (Week 28
X1 time WBU Champion (Week 25)

Whitaker surely should be higher than Cotto. He has the extra achievement of being a semifinalist of the MDC, and has beaten far more impressive opposition.

He also managed a controversial "draw" with a Lonsdale Linear opponent, and should be given another shot ASAP.

Some nice stats there Crease. A+ for effort.

hitman09 wrote:Whitaker surely should be higher than Cotto. He has the extra achievement of being a semifinalist of the MDC, and has beaten far more impressive opposition.

The stats table does not rank the fighters, regardless of the positioning of when the fighters are mentioned.

The Whitaker/Cotto argument is for each individual to decide themselves.

jBacca wrote:Some nice stats there Crease. A+ for effort.

Thank you sir. The stats will change, but they are updated to this week. I will continue to modify them accordingly.

Things could change this week:
Will Jose Napoles become a 2 time Triple Champion?
Will Rodriguez win his first major World titles, and become a Dobule Champion?
Only time (and the Commish) will tell.

Crease your journalistic bias is transparent. Even you recognized the miraculous nature of GBP's top draft choice Mickey Walker's top notch performance upon taking the Kid Gavilan tournament, AND our announcement that he would indeed become a Unified champion (which he did) AND after our benevolent DONATION of Mickey for any manager to take to "get the feel of what it is like to manage a champion". THEN in order to put all things into perspective we sent our #2 Draft choice into battle with "Champion Walker", and promptly relieved him of his responsibilities. At that time you admitted the remarkable nature of the event, and now a victim of "political correctness" you claim that Paul Williams has no "Accolades". Utter nonsense.


We have produced two unified Lonsdale champions......and will guide Kid Gavilan to the stratosphere as well, IF this becomes a 40 week season.

Ah Buzz, you're persistent.

....because when the balderdash, jabberwocky and bullshit finally rots away, the facts, and documented truth of the matter, will always and forever shine through with a blinding magnificence and splendor!

I've stripped it down as much as I could.

WBA WBC WBO IBFIBO WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
SOCKDOLAGER VS JBACCA
CARMEN BASILIO VS MICKEY WALKER
RESULT: MICKEY WALKER UD

Yes thank you for showing GBP's first championship reign of the year...(donated to you for your experiential delight).....
And of course the Linear Lonsdale belt added to this. And of course the trump we delivered.....

WBA WBC WBO IBF IBO WELTERWEIGHT TITLE
JBACCA VS BOXBUZZ
MICKEY WALKER VS PAUL WILLIAMS
RESULT: PAUL WILLIAMS UD

Buzz, I thought you were a man of dignity and respect. Was there a need for the not-so subtle dig?

I was merely pointing out who manages Mr Mickey Walker. What were you hoping to achieve with your contribution?

BoxBuzz wrote:Crease your journalistic bias is transparent...you claim that Paul Williams has no "Accolades". Utter nonsense.

Paul Williams has no accolades Buzz.

1. Was he original Champion of any of the world titles? no.
2. Did he progress far in either of the tournaments? no.
3. Has he any long titles reigns? no

No, Williams has NO accolades.

As for the issue of draft placement, I do not believe that the stats should not reflect or recognise that.

For example: Should Sugar Ray Robinson be awarded another accolade fo the The Number One draft pick?
I don't think so, because it is not something that the boxer achieved.

Bias, predjudicial, bigoted nonsense.

It is what it is, regardless of your spin.

Fact.....GBP wins the tourney
Fact.....GBP donates the winner to charity
Fact.....GBP prediction of future unified championship for MW is made manifest
Fact.....GBP sends out it's JR draft choice to defeat MW for said unified championship in order to dispell any doubt about "who deserves accolades".
Fact.....GBP is given documented "accolades" by crease, BEFORE his compromising incident on his bicycle

Assumption: based on Crease's latest collection of eclectic, random blatherings: We are left to surmise that Crease has since experienced a severe head injury and is unable to communicate with any degree of competency. Thus his spin on these stats must be rendered null, void and irrelevant.

Good effort with this Crease but when the fvck are you going to start making some proper fights for your two fighters and not fighting a bunch of CPU nobodies!!

Stats Updated.

DetroitHxC wrote:

Crease wrote:Will Rodriguez win his first major World titles, and become a Double Champion?

Buzzing for you ya' little rascal. Did well there son.

Rodriquez has held the linear title only once.

DetroitHxC wrote:Crease, you forget to add that he also won the Lonsdale belt with that victory.

I am afraid that the Lonsdale Belt is not recognised in these stats.

That title is not sanctioned by The Commish, it was created by Boxbuzz and as such is not noted nor valid.

Just as Jbacca's (outdated) rankings are not recognised because they are not sanctioned by The Commish.

Stats updated following Napoles becoming only the second man to unify the undisputed championship.

Bold and enlarges the names, Crease!

jBacca wrote:Bold and enlarges the names, Crease!

Anything for the manager of the Undisputed titile

Holy shit, don't say that ever again.