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Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 10 Dec 2010, 19:54
by Brutu
24 years ago this month(December.13 1986),the charred body of Ted Gullick,
the former light-Heavyweight Golden Gloves Champion(1963) and Heavyweight contender,
was found in a field at Cleveland Ohio.
Was his murder(?) ever solved?
What is known about Ted Gullick's life and career?
here is link to a newspaper article concerning his death.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7L ... 2474597&dq

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 11 Dec 2010, 23:36
by Brutu
Here is a trivia question for you all.
Ted Gullick won the 175 lb weight class in the National Golden Gloves tournament in Chicago in March 1963.

Who won the 118 lb wt class in the same GG tournament?

(here is a clue,if you watch HBO boxing,he is now 66 years old and still African-American.)

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2010, 00:03
by THEHAMMER321
Brutu wrote:Here is a trivia question for you all.
Ted Gullick won the 175 lb weight class in the National Golden Gloves tournament in Chicago in March 1963.

Who won the 118 lb wt class in the same GG tournament?

(here is a clue,if you watch HBO boxing,he is now 66 years old and still African-American.)
Manny.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2010, 07:24
by Brutu
Anyone know what Ted Gullick's autopsy revealed?
Was he shot or stabbed before his body was set on fire?
Or was his death considered a suicide?

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2010, 19:52
by hurlock
that dont look like suicide :!: who would painfully burn themself's :!:

sad story that.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2010, 20:05
by Brutu
I wonder if he was killed somewhere else and then his body dropped off there?
A few years ago ,I saw an episode of COPS,were the police found a body wrapped up in an old rug
that had been set on fire.
It was found in a bad crime,drug ridden,neighbourhood of course.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2010, 03:38
by jaclem2
i saw ted gullick fight when i was living (if you can call that living) in cleveland. he started to be taken seriously when he stopped light heavy ray anderson, who was highly rated at the time and was the favorite. an odd post-ending - - gullick was so exhausted by the win that he had to sit on his stool in the middle of the ring while the announcer read off the details...time and such. he had to sit even a little longer before he could finally get up.

I saw him a few fights later stop a guy named tommy hicks, who was nicknamed "Joe Palooka" because he was blonde and dumb looking. gullick looked good.

it was shortly after that his career began falling apart and he was a kayo victim of george foreman, who was on his streak of flattening warm bodies on his way to challenging frazier.

i hadn't heard anything about him in years, until this thread brought him back to mind, and i don't think i was aware of his mysterious death until now.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2010, 06:51
by Brutu
Not too long before the Foreman fight,Ted Gullick fought Earnie Shavers for the Heavyweight championship of Ohio
in Warren in February 1972.
Shavers goes into detail about the fight in his autobiography WELCOME TO THE BIG TIME.
Shaver's koyed Gullick in the sixth round.

It was a well publicised fight,that attracted a lot of media attention, at least with the Cleveland,Youngstown,Niles and Warren Ohio media
I wonder if it was taped or filmed?

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2010, 06:55
by Brutu
Curiously when Shavers autobiography was published around 2000.
He mentions briefly that Gullick was later killed,but did not elaborate for some reason.
I didnt even know anything about Gullick's boxing career when I read the book back then,
and wondered what Shavers was talking about too.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2010, 20:55
by Brutu
George Foreman vs Ted Gullick(April 1972)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_R2ZBjyiRY

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 11:53
by hurlock
oh my god he was really giving it to foreman & was hurting him & took some great shot's himself!!!

foreman looked like a monster & this guy what under 15st probably 14-4???205.

that was a rabbit punch that done him there i noticed :DD what a brave fighter he was tho :TU:

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 19:33
by Brutu
Boxrec lists Gullick's weight as 200 lbs for the Foreman fight.
Just two months before Gullick fought George Foreman(April 1972)
Gullick fought Earnie Shavers(KO6)February1972.
Talk about bookend headaches!

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 19:41
by SaadOffTheDeck
Brutu wrote:Boxrec lists Gullick's weight as 200 lbs for the Foreman fight.
Just two months before Gullick fought George Foreman(April 1972)
Gullick fought Earnie Shavers(KO6)February1972.
Talk about bookend headaches!

No doubt, it's crazy when you see some of the older schedules. My favorite is charley Burley fighting Holman Williams 3 times and Ezzard Charles twice inside of 5 months. Including both of them in less than a week.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 00:04
by Goodnight, Irene
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Brutu wrote:Boxrec lists Gullick's weight as 200 lbs for the Foreman fight.
Just two months before Gullick fought George Foreman(April 1972)
Gullick fought Earnie Shavers(KO6)February1972.
Talk about bookend headaches!

No doubt, it's crazy when you see some of the older schedules. My favorite is charley Burley fighting Holman Williams 3 times and Ezzard Charles twice inside of 5 months. Including both of them in less than a week.

:lol:

It is so ridiculously far-fetched, it seems almost comical. What do you think Mayweather would say of that one?

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 15 Dec 2010, 09:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
He would probably say that Holman Williams & Ezzard Charles have a record littered with losses and aren't fit to be his sparring partners.

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 04:10
by Brutu
Today is the 25th anniversary of when Ted Gullick's body was discovered by the police in a field near the YMCA in Cleveland where he was living.
Has anyone here seen yet what the Cuyahoga County Ohio coroner's office determined as cause of his death?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7L ... 2474597&dq

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 01:46
by Brutu
Perhaps one of the editors of Boxrec can update Ted Gullick's page?

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_Ted_Gullick

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 02:54
by Jaclem
..in my original post i forgot to mention that i saw ted gullick beat the hell out pf ron stander, again in cleveland. stander was especially upset because gullick was the first man ever to knock him off his feet. gullick looked like a real comer...but he ended up as a goner instead.

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 03:05
by Jaclem
oooops...spending time in cleveland does that to a person....i was referring to jeff merrit in his fight with ron stander....not ted gullick.

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 06:28
by Brutu
Im not a doctor,but im not sure if the flames would have killed him.
Wouldnt people have heard screams?maybe they did.
I remember reading that years ealier someone had approached Terry Daniels
and asked him to throw the fight with Ted Gullick.
His boxing career was long over by 1986.
My guess is that his death had something to do with drugs.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 06:29
by Brutu
George Foreman vs Ted Gullick(April 1972)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_R2ZBjyiRY

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 13:40
by HomicideHenry
Reminds me of the "suicide" of wrestler Chief Don Eagle, another local celebrity in my area.

Re: The Mysterious Life and death of Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 10:34
by The 1bangkid
hurlock wrote:that dont look like suicide :!: who would painfully burn themself's :!:

sad story that.

People commit suicide by burning themselves alot more than you would think. This one happened not far from my house also thats how the arab spring started a guy set fire to himself. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/lo ... ase-295649

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 17:51
by misterpunch
gullick looked good for a while against GF - very good left jab - george's poor balance and wasted shots are very evident here.

Re: Boxing Mysteries- Ted Gullick

Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 18:36
by donnellon
Trademark Foreman push, kidney punch and two left hooks. Gullick looked pretty good.