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Does anyone else think its slightly weird how Khan has gone from having a poor chin to having an almost granite one going on the number of big shots he took last night?!Before anyone says it,yes you can improve punch resistance and going upto 140 has probably done that but you dont go from being a guy who gets put on his butt by the likes of willie limond to taking the amount of shots he took last night off a guy with a 90% ko ratio!Personally and I know im going to get grief for this but personally i think its suspicious!If khan had one last night but not taken that many big shots then i wouldnt find anything wrong with it but the number of right hands,uppercuts,etc he was getting hit with and not going down was abnormal in my opinion going on his history!

sg1985 wrote:Did you ever consider he was caught cold against Prescott? I'm not saying he's iron chinned but look at the shot he actually knocks him down with, it's huge, so are the ones that follow. His reaction to that jab was bizarre though.

I see what you're saying but what about gomez and limond who had come up from super-featherweight and in limonds case was pretty feather fisted?!Also Maidana is a bigger puncher than prescott,if you look at prescotts record he hasnt knocked a top level fighter aside from khan out!

lefty wrote:Does anyone else think its slightly weird how Khan has gone from having a poor chin to having an almost granite one going on the number of big shots he took last night?!Before anyone says it,yes you can improve punch resistance and going upto 140 has probably done that but you dont go from being a guy who gets put on his butt by the likes of willie limond to taking the amount of shots he took last night off a guy with a 90% ko ratio!Personally and I know im going to get grief for this but personally i think its suspicious!If khan had one last night but not taken that many big shots then i wouldnt find anything wrong with it but the number of right hands,uppercuts,etc he was getting hit with and not going down was abnormal in my opinion going on his history!

So what are you trying to imply??.
I know what your saying but how do you think he has achieved this then??
There is no substance that will make your chin stronger ( only muscles).

Spiker wrote:

lefty wrote:Does anyone else think its slightly weird how Khan has gone from having a poor chin to having an almost granite one going on the number of big shots he took last night?!Before anyone says it,yes you can improve punch resistance and going upto 140 has probably done that but you dont go from being a guy who gets put on his butt by the likes of willie limond to taking the amount of shots he took last night off a guy with a 90% ko ratio!Personally and I know im going to get grief for this but personally i think its suspicious!If khan had one last night but not taken that many big shots then i wouldnt find anything wrong with it but the number of right hands,uppercuts,etc he was getting hit with and not going down was abnormal in my opinion going on his history!

So what are you trying to imply??.
I know what your saying but how do you think he has achieved this then??
There is no substance that will make your chin stronger ( only muscles).

HGH,improves bone density which affects punch resistance,not saying he's definietly on it but i found that weird!

Have to love slanderous comments without an ounce of proof.

^I've always noticed that Khan had twig legs and overdeveloped upperbody when he was a lightweight

Scottrf wrote:Have to love slanderous comments without an ounce of proof.

You explain then how he's gone from a guy with very poor punch resistance to a guy who took alot of big shots off a very big big puncher and didnt go down once?!You can improve a chin but you cant make someone who had a poor one into someone with a margarito type chin.It doesnt work like that!

Wasn't a Margarito type chin, he was clearly in a lot of trouble. He has improved his conditioning, balance and isn't killing himself to make weight.

sg1985 wrote:

lefty wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Have to love slanderous comments without an ounce of proof.

You explain then how he's gone from a guy with very poor punch resistance to a guy who took alot of big shots off a very big big puncher and didnt go down once?!You can improve a chin but you cant make someone who had a poor one into someone with a margarito type chin.It doesnt work like that!

Read the article I just linked for you.

I did mate,like i said you can improve punch resistance but not that much and in all honesty if ariza was giving khan something over the counter so to speak he isnt going to tell a newspaper is he!Lol

Scottrf wrote:Wasn't a Margarito type chin, he was clearly in a lot of trouble. He has improved his conditioning, balance and isn't killing himself to make weight.

He didnt go down once though!Maidana was hitting him with huge shots and they were just bouncing off khans head!In the past this is a guy who's legs dipped when he got hit by a jab!

Yes obviously its HGH and Khan is now a drug cheat. It couldn't possibly be any of the more sensible reasons others have pointed out.

lefty wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Have to love slanderous comments without an ounce of proof.

You can improve a chin but you cant make someone who had a poor one into someone with a margarito type chin.It doesnt work like that!

but you think HGH can and specifically focus on chin?

The old "it's the shots you don't see that put you down line" holds true. If you are seeing the shots coming in, you are far less likely to get stretched. That is the explanation.

MecnunK wrote:

lefty wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Have to love slanderous comments without an ounce of proof.

You can improve a chin but you cant make someone who had a poor one into someone with a margarito type chin.It doesnt work like that!

but you think HGH can and specifically focus on chin?

No not specifically,it improves bone density all over the body.

He looks sturdier at LWW but I think the main reason his chin is better is he now knows what to do when he's hurt instead of recklessly firing back be moves on his feet away from the punches! I think this again is thanks to Freddie Roach

he's recovery was phenominal, his fitness was unreal. steroids dont put muscles on your jaw but help you recover.

Orionx wrote:Yes obviously its HGH and Khan is now a drug cheat. It couldn't possibly be any of the more sensible reasons others have pointed out.

Well he is condintioned by the same guy that conditions manny pacquaio who within about a year/18 months has put on 18 pounds of muscle which initself is quite rare.

hurlock wrote:he's recovery was phenominal, his fitness was unreal. steroids dont put muscles on your jaw but help you recover.

No but like i said HGH improves bone density which in turn improves punch resistance.

lefty wrote:

Orionx wrote:Yes obviously its HGH and Khan is now a drug cheat. It couldn't possibly be any of the more sensible reasons others have pointed out.

Well he is condintioned by the same guy that conditions manny pacquaio who within about a year/18 months has put on 18 pounds of muscle which initself is quite rare.

You are showing poor knowledge here. His ring weight has barely changed, he just isn't putting on so much on after the weigh in. Keep trying to throw cheat accusations though, makes you look good.

lefty wrote:

Orionx wrote:Yes obviously its HGH and Khan is now a drug cheat. It couldn't possibly be any of the more sensible reasons others have pointed out.

Well he is condintioned by the same guy that conditions manny pacquaio who within about a year/18 months has put on 18 pounds of muscle which initself is quite rare.

Of course and Manny has been convicted of being a drug cheat hasen't he ? I think it was judge Mayweather who tried and sentenced him. There was no proof of course just daft guess work and slander but hey who cares.

Are you really running with this today ? that Amir has to be a drug cheat after his best win. I think you should have a moment.

terminator wrote:^I've always noticed that Khan had twig legs and overdeveloped upperbody when he was a lightweight

This is the reason I think his chin has improved, his legs seem much stronger now and due to this his balance seem much better. Also I think the muscles around his neck are far better developed too. Moving up in weight has meant he can put this extra muscle on. Couple this with a much improved defence and we now have a very good fighter with the potential to go much further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoElrXBBRc check this interview out by victor conte,a guy who knows what he's talking about!

Orionx wrote:

lefty wrote:

Orionx wrote:Yes obviously its HGH and Khan is now a drug cheat. It couldn't possibly be any of the more sensible reasons others have pointed out.

Well he is condintioned by the same guy that conditions manny pacquaio who within about a year/18 months has put on 18 pounds of muscle which initself is quite rare.

Of course and Manny has been convicted of being a drug cheat hasen't he ? I think it was judge Mayweather who tried and sentenced him. There was no proof of course just daft guess work and slander but hey who cares.

Are you really running with this today ? that Amir has to be a drug cheat after his best win. I think you should have a moment.

Ridiculous isn't it. Saying that 'putting just over a stone on in 18 months is super natural' is ridiculous too. Pacquiao has gone from weighing 130 at the weigh in to weighing 144-145 at the weigh in. Even for a guy of 5ft6 I see nothing out of the ordinary there, especially when you consider he would have cut weight to make 130.

lefty where can i buy this sh1t??? i'll guinea pig it out 4 u