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you were one of the top amateurs in the world only missing the big championships because your team mate happened to be world and olympic champion.

you fight in the UK with constantly changing opponents for practically every fight.
for over 8 weeks you train solidly to fight a six rounder at championship weight (practically unheard of in the UK) then surprise surprise your opponent falls through the day before the weigh in....


like the old saying goes its not WHAT you know, Its WHO you know.....

knockout wrote:you were one of the top amateurs in the world only missing the big championships because your team mate happened to be world and olympic champion.

you fight in the UK with constantly changing opponents for practically every fight.
for over 8 weeks you train solidly to fight a six rounder at championship weight (practically unheard of in the UK) then surprise surprise your opponent falls through the day before the weigh in....


like the old saying goes its not WHAT you know, Its WHO you know.....

Trying to work out who you are referring to, Knockout? My gut feeling is Wayne Alexander, but no British amateur has even won a world amateur championships gold, so if he was a teammate of that amateur star, it has to be an overseas fighter. Mmm. Intriguing.

bennie wrote:

knockout wrote:you were one of the top amateurs in the world only missing the big championships because your team mate happened to be world and olympic champion.

you fight in the UK with constantly changing opponents for practically every fight.
for over 8 weeks you train solidly to fight a six rounder at championship weight (practically unheard of in the UK) then surprise surprise your opponent falls through the day before the weigh in....


like the old saying goes its not WHAT you know, Its WHO you know.....

Trying to work out who you are referring to, Knockout? My gut feeling is Wayne Alexander, but no British amateur has even won a world amateur championships gold, so if he was a teammate of that amateur star, it has to be an overseas fighter. Mmm. Intriguing.

wasnt meant to be a quiz but as you like a challenge
ok, his team mate won olympic gold in sydney and at the 2001 world champs at 81kg. one of the only other 4 men to beat him (in a controversial loss in the national champioship) won gold at last years world championship also at 81kg

Dennis Bakhtov?

Bennie: 81kg, although i guess the same kin of scenario is probably applicable
LOL

I know you are allied to the excellent Peacock Gym, Knockout (and Bakhtov is with Sports Network), so Bakhtov was a pretty ludicrous stab in the dark. I must admit, I don't know who you are referring to. A Russian won Olympic gold at light-heavy in 2000 (Alexander Lebziak), so I assume it's an eastern bloc fighter fighting and training out of Peacock.

bennie wrote:I know you are allied to the excellent Peacock Gym, Knockout (and Bakhtov is with Sports Network), so Bakhtov was a pretty ludicrous stab in the dark. I must admit, I don't know who you are referring to. A Russian won Olympic gold at light-heavy in 2000 (Alexander Lebziak), so I assume it's an eastern bloc fighter fighting and training out of Peacock.

exactly.... super middle 13-1...

Islam Arsangaliev?

Wait, you did say the person in question won gold at the recent worlds. Did you mean "last year" as in this past summer? That would mean Evgueni Makarenko.

Eric Teymour

Freiheit wrote:Eric Teymour

thats my man!!!!

Yeah, he's a dark horse. Another member of the "who needs him" club.

Somehow I thought you were talking about Russian boxers (as in, guys who fought on the Russian team). Oh well.

Eric the Viking wrote:Somehow I thought you were talking about Russian boxers. Oh well.

He is Russian, Eric.

bennie wrote:

Eric the Viking wrote:Somehow I thought you were talking about Russian boxers. Oh well.

He is Russian, Eric.

I was editing my post to clarify as you wrote this - I meant the Russian team. When did Teymour move to the UK?

When did Teymour move to the UK?

Not sure. Knockout would know.
The fighter (I believe his real first name is Erik) was close to a shot at Tony Oakey's WBU light-heavyweight title in October when Darren Corbett pulled out after running into a pram and injuring his ribs (that's what he said happened!). But Matthew Barney got the shot instead and pulled off an upset win over a man who must have taken cocaine two or three days prior to the fight (it wouldn't have remained in his system otherwise). That was an opportunity missed for Teymour.

bennie wrote:

When did Teymour move to the UK?

Not sure. Knockout would know.
The fighter (I believe his real first name is Erik) was close to a shot at Tony Oakey's WBU light-heavyweight title in October when Darren Corbett pulled out after running into a pram and injuring his ribs (that's what he said happened!). But Matthew Barney got the shot instead and pulled off an upset win over a man who must have taken cocaine two or three days prior to the fight (it wouldn't have remained in his system otherwise). That was an opportunity missed for Teymour.

Teymour (real name Eranos Teymorazov) moved to the Uk in early 2001. he got fed up with the amateur game after a points loss to Eugene Makarenko (current 81kg world champ)which he felt he clearly won but was robbed because of internal politics.

He had amassed a amateur record of 170-5 (approx) the losses coming to Makerenko and Lebedev (world and Olympic champs) and a loss to Dennis Lebedev (11-0 as a pro) who he beat twice in the amateur ranks

He stayed at Lennox lewis college for 3 months then moved to Peacock.

His early fights he was unknown so fairly easy to match, he won his first 6 very impressively.

He was then matched against the world class Sam Soliman in his 7th fight and first 8 rounder. He won the early rounds but then Sams experience told and he lost the fight on points. [the two are incidently very good friends, neither wanted the fight but neither of them could get a fight ]
Incidently the fight was made at 11st 8 which.... which was difficult for Erik and Soliman has only lost at this weight to the VERY best (Eastman, Joval etc)

Instead of easing back he jumped straight in with Toks Owoh the night Audley fought Krence at Excel in London. Toks struggled to get to grips with Eriks style and lost points decision.

He fought Varuzhan Davtyan, the then dangerous prospect, on one days notice live on sky in november 2002. he won clearly but suffered a nasty cut from a head clash. This and the fact that one of his best friends was shot dead in Moscow earlier in the week meant we didnt see the best of Teymour that night.

A quick win over Radcliffe Green and he fought the supe tough Paul Bonson... although giving away over 15 lbs in weight he did a number on Paul and Boxing News said that a stoppage by the ref wouldnt have been inappropriate (or words to that effect)

Again opponents were hard to come by when Erik made his debut for allegedly in May, a number of names were thrown in the hat, but disappointingly for Erik he found himself looking across the ring at someone he had already beaten. Varuzhan Davtyan. Although winning 40-36 on the refs card it was clear Erik wasnt up for the fight.

Erik went home for the summer and having been back in the UK for three weeks took a 6 rounder against dangerman Vage Kocharyan, who has since fought Carl Froch. The fight was a competitive one but was cut to 4 rounds. Erik winning the first three and then easying off in the fourth after a head butt from Vage opened a cut over his eye.

It was then back in training for a December 6th fight with Marty Moneghan. The fight was made at 12stone and Erik has been on the weight for the last 10 days. Yesterday news came that Moneghan had pulled out cause he was sick... Not Moneghans fault but so frustrating for a man whos boxing is his life. Hopefully Erik will get an opponent for Saturday night and will get the opportunities in the future his talents deserve...

Thanks for the info, KO - but must you always skimp so on the details? ;)

Best of luck to Teymour for a better run in the coming years.

knockout wrote:

bennie wrote:

When did Teymour move to the UK?

Not sure. Knockout would know.
The fighter (I believe his real first name is Erik) was close to a shot at Tony Oakey's WBU light-heavyweight title in October when Darren Corbett pulled out after running into a pram and injuring his ribs (that's what he said happened!). But Matthew Barney got the shot instead and pulled off an upset win over a man who must have taken cocaine two or three days prior to the fight (it wouldn't have remained in his system otherwise). That was an opportunity missed for Teymour.

Teymour (real name Eranos Teymorazov) moved to the Uk in early 2001. he got fed up with the amateur game after a points loss to Eugene Makarenko (current 81kg world champ)which he felt he clearly won but was robbed because of internal politics.

He had amassed a amateur record of 170-5 (approx) the losses coming to Makerenko and Lebedev (world and Olympic champs) and a loss to Dennis Lebedev (11-0 as a pro) who he beat twice in the amateur ranks

He stayed at Lennox lewis college for 3 months then moved to Peacock.

His early fights he was unknown so fairly easy to match, he won his first 6 very impressively.

He was then matched against the world class Sam Soliman in his 7th fight and first 8 rounder. He won the early rounds but then Sams experience told and he lost the fight on points. [the two are incidently very good friends, neither wanted the fight but neither of them could get a fight ]
Incidently the fight was made at 11st 8 which.... which was difficult for Erik and Soliman has only lost at this weight to the VERY best (Eastman, Joval etc)

Instead of easing back he jumped straight in with Toks Owoh the night Audley fought Krence at Excel in London. Toks struggled to get to grips with Eriks style and lost points decision.

He fought Varuzhan Davtyan, the then dangerous prospect, on one days notice live on sky in november 2002. he won clearly but suffered a nasty cut from a head clash. This and the fact that one of his best friends was shot dead in Moscow earlier in the week meant we didnt see the best of Teymour that night.

A quick win over Radcliffe Green and he fought the supe tough Paul Bonson... although giving away over 15 lbs in weight he did a number on Paul and Boxing News said that a stoppage by the ref wouldnt have been inappropriate (or words to that effect)

Again opponents were hard to come by when Erik made his debut for allegedly in May, a number of names were thrown in the hat, but disappointingly for Erik he found himself looking across the ring at someone he had already beaten. Varuzhan Davtyan. Although winning 40-36 on the refs card it was clear Erik wasnt up for the fight.

Erik went home for the summer and having been back in the UK for three weeks took a 6 rounder against dangerman Vage Kocharyan, who has since fought Carl Froch. The fight was a competitive one but was cut to 4 rounds. Erik winning the first three and then easying off in the fourth after a head butt from Vage opened a cut over his eye.

It was then back in training for a December 6th fight with Marty Moneghan. The fight was made at 12stone and Erik has been on the weight for the last 10 days. Yesterday news came that Moneghan had pulled out cause he was sick... Not Moneghans fault but so frustrating for a man whos boxing is his life. Hopefully Erik will get an opponent for Saturday night and will get the opportunities in the future his talents deserve...

Yes, excellent write-up, Knockout.

bennie wrote:Yes, excellent write-up, Knockout.

But did you have to quote the whole thing to say so, Bennie? ;)