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........should he be immediately fast tracked into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.

Thoughts?

Bloody hell i nearly choked on my corn flakes,Lee wouldnt stand a chance

This title shot is waaaaayyyy too early for him. HBO are a joke and Frank Maloney is right, Emmanual Steward is a money whore for allowing this fight to happen and taking his big cut. Andy Lee will get beaten badly at this stage of his career.

Newport Daz wrote:This title shot is waaaaayyyy too early for him. HBO are a joke and Frank Maloney is right, Emmanual Steward is a money whore for allowing this fight to happen and taking his big cut. Andy Lee will get beaten badly at this stage of his career.

but his preperation has been immaculate! Troy Lowry - bosh! Michael Walker - bizang! James Cook - crunch! Mamadou Thiam - wHallop!

A 2010 to remember!

so it isn't a joke? he is getting a shot at Sergio?

Andy Lee gets beaten badly by the likes of Martinez at any stage in his career. Too early is nothing to do with it, not being good enough to take on such fighters is the reason!

Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

Thought Martinez was fighting Zbik?

thepocketrocket wrote:Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

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yiddo14 wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

?

Sorry, just seems another 'lets give Andy Lee a kicking' thread..he is a very good fighter...I'm betting if Barker or Macklin got a shot then the tone would be differant

thepocketrocket wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

?

Sorry, just seems another 'lets give Andy Lee a kicking' thread..he is a very good fighter...I'm betting if Barker or Macklin got a shot then the tone would be differant

Nah, they would both get destroyed too. All three should look at fighting each other. Martinez and the likes are far too good for them. Different level completely.

They would all be foolish to turn it down if given the chance though. This is Boxing and he is the top man, have to take it if it ever comes along.

thepocketrocket wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

?

Sorry, just seems another 'lets give Andy Lee a kicking' thread..he is a very good fighter...I'm betting if Barker or Macklin got a shot then the tone would be differant

Barker&Macklin would be in the same predicament as Lee,cant blame him tho for the £££££

He has as good a chance as any other British fighter at the weight....it is a fight where even if he loses he will, in my opinion gain experience....

Is this fight on?

Know what you are saying yiddo...this is just the forum where there is a huge belief that Barker-Lee would be a 'mismatch'

kevo wrote:Thought Martinez was fighting Zbik?

Zbik doesnt want to leave Germany, doesnt want to risk his record and HBO dont want him.

I really can't see how Lee can beat Martinez! I see a one sided beat down. Far too early for Andy Lee

slapbangwhallop wrote:

kevo wrote:Thought Martinez was fighting Zbik?

Zbik doesnt want to leave Germany, doesnt want to risk his record and HBO dont want him.

thepocketrocket wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:Whilst Barker and Macklin are the second coming of Marcel Cerdan

?

Sorry, just seems another 'lets give Andy Lee a kicking' thread..he is a very good fighter...I'm betting if Barker or Macklin got a shot then the tone would be differant

I'm as close as you'll get to a macklin fan on here and i would predict nothing beyond a one-sided beatdown for macklin

thepocketrocket wrote:He has as good a chance as any other British fighter at the weight....it is a fight where even if he loses he will, in my opinion gain experience....

Is this fight on?

Know what you are saying yiddo...this is just the forum where there is a huge belief that Barker-Lee would be a 'mismatch'

He does have a bit of a following on here. As always, any fighter that has that gets a tad over rated.

martinez, one of my fave fighters, will brutally expose lee, and probably make a lot of money, which he deserves to do given his recent form during an extremely hot schedule.

glad that martinez has an 'event' fight, a good stage on which to perform.

maybe lee can make a fight out of it, due to his size and apparent talent. but it's a massive step up in class. chavez jr might have been a better challenger, as he can at least fight inside. but chavez - with his latin fury PPVs and milking of his dad's name - has more to lose.

glad HBO turned down zbik, a boring fighter albeit a top contender (just about).

hope one of the good middleweight contenders - and there are plenty of 'em (golovkin, njikam, geale, macklin, barker) - will step up. don't want to see martinez deplete himself for one of those catchweights vs someone like cotto, who got thrashed in his last big fight.

Autobarn wrote:martinez, one of my fave fighters, will brutally expose lee, and probably make a lot of money, which he deserves to do given his recent form during an extremely hot schedule.

glad that martinez has an 'event' fight, a good stage on which to perform.

maybe lee can make a fight out of it, due to his size and apparent talent. but it's a massive step up in class. chavez jr might have been a better challenger, as he can at least fight inside. but chavez - with his latin fury PPVs and milking of his dad's name - has more to lose.

glad HBO turned down zbik, a boring fighter albeit a top contender (just about).

hope one of the good middleweight contenders - and there are plenty of 'em (golovkin, njikam, geale, macklin, barker) - will step up. don't want to see martinez deplete himself for one of those catchweights vs someone like cotto, who got thrashed in his last big fight.

Do you consider Barker a class above Lee?

lee has more chance of walking on water.

martinez is class.

In the same week in March that Belfast's Brian Magee ventures to Canada for a no-win shot at the unbeaten Lucian Bute, Limerick's Andy Lee ventures to Madison Square Garden for his own Mission Impossible against Sergio Martinez.
Lee, a big, strong, capable southpaw, challenges the gifted Martinez for the major WBC middleweight title. Is he ready? No, but he has knocked over a succession of parking wardens recently and his record, just one defeat in 25 fights, makes him attractive to a Martinez looking for a quick 'gimme' defence before he really cashes in against the division's big names.
Martinez lifted the belt with a crushing knockout of the feared Paul Williams just last month in Atlantic City. The slick, sharpshooting Argentine nailed Williams, a rangy southpaw like Lee, in the second round with the punch of the year to avenge a disputed 2009 loss, and has now seen off Williams and Kelly Pavlik in his last two fights, which makes him the form fighter in world boxing today. Southpaw Martinez, remembered here for sparkling displays against Richard Williams and Adrian Stone, has lost just twice in a 50-fight career dating back to 1997, which speaks for itself. The man is class.
As for Lee, he seems to have gome backwards since turning pro four years ago in the wake of a glittering amateur career, looking far better in some of his early pro fights than he has of late. We know all about him, of course, and we know he fights better against those who give him room to pick his big shots, as opposed to those who crowd him, and Martinez I suppose will give him room, but it is hard to build up the Irishman's chances any more than that. Lee lacks natural speed and his defence is not great either, both of which leave him there to be hit by champion's quick, dangerous counters.
Frankly, you begin to wonder if Emanuel Steward, who backs Lee, knows that his man lacks the ability to stay around at the top for long, so why not chuck him in for a big payday. Lee will flog plenty of tickets among the sentimental Irish fraternity in New York and can fall back on a rematch with Brian Vera, the only man to beat him, or an all-Ireland showdown with John Duddy in defeat, and he will wind up defeated. Fairytales in New York began and ended with The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl.

If Andy Lee beats Sergio Martinez in March........

I'll go on da beer for a month

You'd obviously expect Martinez to win this easily, but it's not on the Cotto/Jennings or Pavlik/Lockett scale of mismatches.

bennie wrote:In the same week in March that Belfast's Brian Magee ventures to Canada for a no-win shot at the unbeaten Lucian Bute, Limerick's Andy Lee ventures to Madison Square Garden for his own Mission Impossible against Sergio Martinez.
Lee, a big, strong, capable southpaw, challenges the gifted Martinez for the major WBC middleweight title. Is he ready? No, but he has knocked over a succession of parking wardens recently and his record, just one defeat in 25 fights, makes him attractive to a Martinez looking for a quick 'gimme' defence before he really cashes in against the division's big names.
Martinez lifted the belt with a crushing knockout of the feared Paul Williams just last month in Atlantic City. The slick, sharpshooting Argentine nailed Williams, a rangy southpaw like Lee, in the second round with the punch of the year to avenge a disputed 2009 loss, and has now seen off Williams and Kelly Pavlik in his last two fights, which makes him the form fighter in world boxing today. Southpaw Martinez, remembered here for sparkling displays against Richard Williams and Adrian Stone, has lost just twice in a 50-fight career dating back to 1997, which speaks for itself. The man is class.
As for Lee, he seems to have gome backwards since turning pro four years ago in the wake of a glittering amateur career, looking far better in some of his early pro fights than he has of late. We know all about him, of course, and we know he fights better against those who give him room to pick his big shots, as opposed to those who crowd him, and Martinez I suppose will give him room, but it is hard to build up the Irishman's chances any more than that. Lee lacks natural speed and his defence is not great either, both of which leave him there to be hit by champion's quick, dangerous counters.
Frankly, you begin to wonder if Emanuel Steward, who backs Lee, knows that his man lacks the ability to stay around at the top for long, so why not chuck him in for a big payday. Lee will flog plenty of tickets among the sentimental Irish fraternity in New York and can fall back on a rematch with Brian Vera, the only man to beat him, or an all-Ireland showdown with John Duddy in defeat, and he will wind up defeated. Fairytales in New York began and ended with The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl.

i agree with alot you wrote there mate but are ye blind..no speed??
i have to say one thing i always liked about lee is his speed and power