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retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 17:39
by rhino222
fighters who, for one reason or another, retired as unbeaten fighters but without winning any significant titles..........perhaps they had the potential to go further but for injury or whatever, their careers were cut short.

come on fellas.......anyone spring to mind...

George kandelaki....?

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 17:44
by Deno1986
Not sure if he fits in the topic heading but Ike Ibeabuchi was sent to the slammer unbeaten and never having won a title of any note.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 17:46
by ed robinson
I used to train with a guy called Anthony McFadden - a light-middleweight who was very heavy handed. He quit the sport unbeaten and has done well in business.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 17:49
by rhino222
Deno1986 wrote:Not sure if he fits in the topic heading but Ike Ibeabuchi was sent to the slammer unbeaten and never having won a title of any note.
i remember ike stopping chris byrd i think.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 17:50
by rhino222
ed robinson wrote:I used to train with a guy called Anthony McFadden - a light-middleweight who was very heavy handed. He quit the sport unbeaten and has done well in business.
why did he quit?

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 18:05
by TerribleTerry
Lester Jacobs retired unbeaten if I remember correctly...

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 18:51
by GAV
Whenever this topic comes up I think of one man....Samson Dutch boy Gym

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

To go 43-0 (36KOs) makes you wonder why he never fought for a notable title.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 19:18
by black panther
Thinking of a boxer of african origin, I think he's a trainer in London now. I think he was a super middleweight.....name begins with "T" I think. Fvck this is going to bug me now...........


Of course I always wonder how far Kevin "Real Hammer" Lear could have gone as well:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Dealing with a prime Gomez the way he did after only 12 fights was impressive. I think he had a bad injury of some sort.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 19:25
by banjo
black panther wrote:Thinking of a boxer of african origin, I think he's a trainer in London now. I think he was a super middleweight.....name begins with "T" I think. Fvck this is going to bug me now...........


Of course I always wonder how far Kevin "Real Hammer" Lear could have gone as well:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Dealing with a prime Gomez the way he did after only 12 fights was impressive. I think he had a bad injury of some sort.
Lear was the first one who sprang to mind for me, think it was a shoulder injury that done him in.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 22:29
by gobbles
GAV wrote:Whenever this topic comes up I think of one man....Samson Dutch boy Gym

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

To go 43-0 (36KOs) makes you wonder why he never fought for a notable title.

wow 39 defences

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 04:29
by veriton
don't forget lestor jacobs!

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 04:41
by ed robinson
Black panther - you're thinking of Babatunde Ajayi - now known as Tunde - a promising trainer who has worked with Kevin Mitchell and Akaash Bhatia. He was a pro with Eugene Maloney if I remember correctly.

Rhino - McFadden quit after a hard fight with Jimmy Vincent - I think he was a surveyor or something and knew he'd make more money in that field. He was massive for 11 stone and didn't look anything too special but every thudding punch he threw would rattle your head.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 06:58
by 1southpaw
what about jason ratcliff he was 8-0 3ko's massive ticket seller from romford he retired and has his own building company now ???

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 07:37
by Bricks
Sure this guy got beaten once but he retired at his peak with some good wins and an ibo title.....and he's a guy who despite a crowd pleasing mix of skill,power and vulnerability never gets talked about anywhere....................javaid "too sleeq" khaliq.....he was a british pakistani ring hero before amir khan......too bad nottingham doesnt support its own fighters

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 07:42
by Counter-puncher
mugabi wrote:too bad nottingham doesnt support its own fighters
yeah, right.

carl Froch has to pay those 8000 people to turn up every time.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 08:45
by bennie
I always think of Laszlo Papp, who was unbeaten and close to a world title shot when the Hungarian government lost its nerve.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 08:55
by Poncey
bennie wrote:I always think of Laszlo Papp, who was unbeaten and close to a world title shot when the Hungarian government lost its nerve.
IMO Papp was the greatest amatuer that ever lived. But because of communism he was prevented from fighting for a world title.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 09:01
by McCannW14
veriton wrote:don't forget lestor jacobs!
Please!

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 09:04
by IRLangmaid25
Baby Joe Mesi. 36-0 with 29 Knockouts http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 09:44
by fightacademy
stuart brooks...... good fighter big ticket seller, quit the sport when his younger brother scott was killed he too was a big prospect

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 09:45
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Mark Epton

There was a fighter called Agustin Senin over in Spain who was 42-0-1 but he was also European bantamweight champion - I don't know why he retired. :o

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 09:49
by THEBUTCH
Yeah, would have been good to see how far Mesi could have gone. I still think he could have gone further at the time the scan ended his career.

Lester Jacobs' record was flattering. He was pretty good domestically, but an in-form Delroy Leslie gave him fits and I think that pretty much tells you Lester's level.

Lear was the one that got away IMO. Without the shoulder injury and improved dedication I'm sure he could have become a top tier European level fighter...who knows! He really gave Gomez a spanking when he was really just a very good novice. Shows what potential he had.

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 10:08
by Counter-puncher
isn't that Italian wifebeater from Pittsburgh still unbeaten?

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 11:00
by black panther
ed robinson wrote:Black panther - you're thinking of Babatunde Ajayi - now known as Tunde - a promising trainer who has worked with Kevin Mitchell and Akaash Bhatia. He was a pro with Eugene Maloney if I remember correctly.

Rhino - McFadden quit after a hard fight with Jimmy Vincent - I think he was a surveyor or something and knew he'd make more money in that field. He was massive for 11 stone and didn't look anything too special but every thudding punch he threw would rattle your head.
:bow:

Thanks man, that was driving me crazy! :lol:

Re: retirted unbeaten..........but without any significant title

Posted: 20 Dec 2010, 11:49
by jameswilson
veriton wrote:don't forget lestor jacobs!
Oh yeah that guy mentioned about 4 posts before yours. Yeah easy to forget him isn't it!