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Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 04:22
by ALI
Now that Duddy has pulled out of his fight with Lee, apparently Scotland's Craig McEwan is the front runner to replace him in an all celtic showdown.

Its a good match up IMO, with Lee probably being the favourite going in. I'm not ready to make a call yet, but i will say i see this going the distance.

How do you see this one going?

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 06:07
by bennie
Two Celts, Andy Lee and Craig McEwan, could face off in the States on March 12 after Lee's original opponent, John Duddy, suddenly and surprisingly announced his retirement.
Southpaw Lee, big and strong but slow and open, is on a decent run since he was destroyed by the unlikely Brian Vera three years ago in Connecticut, having won his last nine contests (five early). The Limerick man may have scared off Duddy, who clearly doesn't fancy it for one reason or another, which makes you wonder if the Derry battler is badly advised, one punch short of a combination, or just Irish. Duddy stood a puncher's chance against someone like Lee, particularly in the early rounds of an all-Ireland showdown set to make them a lot of dough in Connecticut in St Patrick's week.
As for southpaw McEwan, big and strong but slow and open himself, he outscored that man Vera over 10 rounds in 2009 in Texas so has one over Lee, although neither fighter can really fight. Lee, 24-1 (18), is trained by Manny Steward who keeps telling him he's looking great when in reality he's looking great against body bags, while McEwan, 19-0 (10), also looks great against corpses and supposedly has Freddie Roach in his corner but "Red" can't spare the time with the tall, pale-looking Scot, prompting a McEwan tantrum quite recently and a career that seems to be going nowhere. McEwan, 28, fought just twice last year.
As for the result, both men men bust up and I'll mention that in case of a cuts ending, but McEwan has shown a little bit more of nothing than Lee down the years and I lean towards him.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 07:47
by 15829
ishe smith has offerd to fight lee if mcewan doesnt want the fight

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 07:54
by Tomasino
Although I don't see any world titles in either future saying that neither guy can really fight is plain daft mate.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 08:26
by biglefthook
be a great fight but lee would win

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 08:28
by freddydoesdallas
I thought McEwan was going to be on the undercard for Khan, shame if this doesn't happen

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 10:05
by ALI
bennie wrote:Two Celts, Andy Lee and Craig McEwan, could face off in the States on March 12 after Lee's original opponent, John Duddy, suddenly and surprisingly announced his retirement.
Southpaw Lee, big and strong but slow and open, is on a decent run since he was destroyed by the unlikely Brian Vera three years ago in Connecticut, having won his last nine contests (five early). The Limerick man may have scared off Duddy, who clearly doesn't fancy it for one reason or another, which makes you wonder if the Derry battler is badly advised, one punch short of a combination, or just Irish. Duddy stood a puncher's chance against someone like Lee, particularly in the early rounds of an all-Ireland showdown set to make them a lot of dough in Connecticut in St Patrick's week.
As for southpaw McEwan, big and strong but slow and open himself, he outscored that man Vera over 10 rounds in 2009 in Texas so has one over Lee, although neither fighter can really fight. Lee, 24-1 (18), is trained by Manny Steward who keeps telling him he's looking great when in reality he's looking great against body bags, while McEwan, 19-0 (10), also looks great against corpses and supposedly has Freddie Roach in his corner but "Red" can't spare the time with the tall, pale-looking Scot, prompting a McEwan tantrum quite recently and a career that seems to be going nowhere. McEwan, 28, fought just twice last year.
As for the result, both men men bust up and I'll mention that in case of a cuts ending, but McEwan has shown a little bit more of nothing than Lee down the years and I lean towards him.
Did you not get your coffee this morning?

Thats quite a brutal take, just because neither of them are particularly looking like making a big splash on the world title scene does not mean they deserve a good ribbing because of it. Both guys have their own qualities and are good fighters in their own right, and dare i say it, still with a lot of room for improvement.

Did not know McEwan wiss pee'd of due to Roach not having time for him. He'd be better off else where if thats the case. I had my concerns that he was being used a bit as a sparring partner for top names, because he has a reputation as being a right tough nut he seemed to be getting the call up for sparring with just about everybody who was anybody, and taking some uneccessary punishment along the way IMO.

I for one hope the Lee v McEwan fight comes off. I'll be looking forward to it if it does.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 10:41
by Re-up Gang
bennie wrote:Two Celts, Andy Lee and Craig McEwan, could face off in the States on March 12 after Lee's original opponent, John Duddy, suddenly and surprisingly announced his retirement.
Southpaw Lee, big and strong but slow and open, is on a decent run since he was destroyed by the unlikely Brian Vera three years ago in Connecticut, having won his last nine contests (five early). The Limerick man may have scared off Duddy, who clearly doesn't fancy it for one reason or another, which makes you wonder if the Derry battler is badly advised, one punch short of a combination, or just Irish. Duddy stood a puncher's chance against someone like Lee, particularly in the early rounds of an all-Ireland showdown set to make them a lot of dough in Connecticut in St Patrick's week.
As for southpaw McEwan, big and strong but slow and open himself, he outscored that man Vera over 10 rounds in 2009 in Texas so has one over Lee, although neither fighter can really fight. Lee, 24-1 (18), is trained by Manny Steward who keeps telling him he's looking great when in reality he's looking great against body bags, while McEwan, 19-0 (10), also looks great against corpses and supposedly has Freddie Roach in his corner but "Red" can't spare the time with the tall, pale-looking Scot, prompting a McEwan tantrum quite recently and a career that seems to be going nowhere. McEwan, 28, fought just twice last year.
As for the result, both men men bust up and I'll mention that in case of a cuts ending, but McEwan has shown a little bit more of nothing than Lee down the years and I lean towards him.

very harsh words.
Lee to me hseems to have teh tools and he should beat mcewan easier than he would potentially have beaten duddy.
mcewan however seems to haev faceed tougher opposition buit doesnnt seems to have enuogh tools to my eys to beat lee.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 10:59
by bigped
Craig fights next week in mexico, after this he was ment to be on khan undercard chief support in a big fight, but the lee fight would be good for him in states or even put it on the khan undercard?

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 14:23
by ApolloCreed
OK, I'll bite.
If you get stopped after seven rounds (premaurely in the view of many) and were ahead on points at the time, that means you were "destroyed"? :oo
Come on bennie, you're better than that.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 14:37
by ImElvis666
bennie wrote:Two Celts, Andy Lee and Craig McEwan, could face off in the States on March 12 after Lee's original opponent, John Duddy, suddenly and surprisingly announced his retirement.
Southpaw Lee, big and strong but slow and open, is on a decent run since he was destroyed by the unlikely Brian Vera three years ago in Connecticut, having won his last nine contests (five early). The Limerick man may have scared off Duddy, who clearly doesn't fancy it for one reason or another, which makes you wonder if the Derry battler is badly advised, one punch short of a combination, or just Irish. Duddy stood a puncher's chance against someone like Lee, particularly in the early rounds of an all-Ireland showdown set to make them a lot of dough in Connecticut in St Patrick's week.
As for southpaw McEwan, big and strong but slow and open himself, he outscored that man Vera over 10 rounds in 2009 in Texas so has one over Lee, although neither fighter can really fight. Lee, 24-1 (18), is trained by Manny Steward who keeps telling him he's looking great when in reality he's looking great against body bags, while McEwan, 19-0 (10), also looks great against corpses and supposedly has Freddie Roach in his corner but "Red" can't spare the time with the tall, pale-looking Scot, prompting a McEwan tantrum quite recently and a career that seems to be going nowhere. McEwan, 28, fought just twice last year.
As for the result, both men men bust up and I'll mention that in case of a cuts ending, but McEwan has shown a little bit more of nothing than Lee down the years and I lean towards him.
You're a woeful "writer", it must be said.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 15:39
by He's Gone Jim!
Good fight. Mcewan would be a mug to pass it up. However thats quite the fashion with boxers at the moment unfortunately.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 17:42
by bigped
He's Gone Jim! wrote:Good fight. Mcewan would be a mug to pass it up. However thats quite the fashion with boxers at the moment unfortunately.

craigs dying on the fight mate would sign it tomz

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 19:20
by slapbangwhallop
I am hearing that this is "99% done"

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 04:53
by ALI
March 12th, Connecticut, US of A.

Come on Craig, you can do it :TU:

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 05:11
by Deno1986
I really havn't seen a lot of McEwan, must book a date with Youtube later. From looking at his record he has struggled a bit recently. I know it matters for little in the pro's but hasn't Lee beaten McEwan at least once in the amateurs?

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 05:20
by ALI
Deno1986 wrote:I know it matters for little in the pro's but hasn't Lee beaten McEwan at least once in the amateurs?
Interesting, does anyone have any info on this. If they did fight, how did it pan out, who won and how? What age were they at the time etc?

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 05:26
by Deno1986
ALI wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:I know it matters for little in the pro's but hasn't Lee beaten McEwan at least once in the amateurs?
Interesting, does anyone have any info on this. If they did fight, how did it pan out, who won and how? What age were they at the time etc?
http://www.scottishboxing.co.uk/archives/2005_03.html
Two Scots made it to the finals of the Four Nations, with James Ancliff losing 38-17 to Nick MacDonald (Eng) in the 54kg category and Craig McEwan losing 17-6 to Andy Lee of Ireland at 75kg.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 13:59
by bigped
Yeah its on 12th march, am goin for craig to grit it out, even though hes struggled in some fights to date always seems to find a way to win, think he will shine here craig points, :bag:

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 18:25
by ALI
Deno1986 wrote:
ALI wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:I know it matters for little in the pro's but hasn't Lee beaten McEwan at least once in the amateurs?
Interesting, does anyone have any info on this. If they did fight, how did it pan out, who won and how? What age were they at the time etc?
http://www.scottishboxing.co.uk/archives/2005_03.html
Two Scots made it to the finals of the Four Nations, with James Ancliff losing 38-17 to Nick MacDonald (Eng) in the 54kg category and Craig McEwan losing 17-6 to Andy Lee of Ireland at 75kg.
Thats right before they turned pro then so it carries weight with me. Its a wide enough score to suggest Lee outboxed him soundly enough. He'll be more confident going in. Interesting find.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 22:17
by bigped
ALI wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:
ALI wrote: Interesting, does anyone have any info on this. If they did fight, how did it pan out, who won and how? What age were they at the time etc?
http://www.scottishboxing.co.uk/archives/2005_03.html
Two Scots made it to the finals of the Four Nations, with James Ancliff losing 38-17 to Nick MacDonald (Eng) in the 54kg category and Craig McEwan losing 17-6 to Andy Lee of Ireland at 75kg.
Thats right before they turned pro then so it carries weight with me. Its a wide enough score to suggest Lee outboxed him soundly enough. He'll be more confident going in. Interesting find.

4 x 2 mins, 10 x 3 mins big difference, common opponent vera, 50/50 in my eyes

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 07:09
by Deno1986
I've just watched McEwan's fight against Vera and to be honest I wasn't impressed. His jab was non existent and his defense was poor, I also noticed he leaves himself extremely open when getting that left hook in. Lee's fast hands and snappy jab beats him all night in my opinion. Up until the 7th round Lee actually boxed much better against Vera than McEwan did.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 11:55
by dutchie
Great fight for both,will the winner be up there to have a crack at Martinez or will he go elsewhere to get a belt??
Lee all the way for me and people will see a champ in waiting!!

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 19:43
by crusader
I like this match. Similiar builds, styles, amateur pedigree, level of opposition, etc. Two good fighters who will fall short at the top level, but still possess some ability. I lean towards Lee. I think he is a bit more polished and clearly punches harder.

Re: Andy Lee v Craig McEwan views

Posted: 22 Jan 2011, 20:11
by whiskey
bennie wrote:Two Celts, Andy Lee and Craig McEwan, could face off in the States on March 12 after Lee's original opponent, John Duddy, suddenly and surprisingly announced his retirement.
Southpaw Lee, big and strong but slow and open, is on a decent run since he was destroyed by the unlikely Brian Vera three years ago in Connecticut, having won his last nine contests (five early). The Limerick man may have scared off Duddy, who clearly doesn't fancy it for one reason or another, which makes you wonder if the Derry battler is badly advised, one punch short of a combination, or just Irish. Duddy stood a puncher's chance against someone like Lee, particularly in the early rounds of an all-Ireland showdown set to make them a lot of dough in Connecticut in St Patrick's week.
As for southpaw McEwan, big and strong but slow and open himself, he outscored that man Vera over 10 rounds in 2009 in Texas so has one over Lee, although neither fighter can really fight. Lee, 24-1 (18), is trained by Manny Steward who keeps telling him he's looking great when in reality he's looking great against body bags, while McEwan, 19-0 (10), also looks great against corpses and supposedly has Freddie Roach in his corner but "Red" can't spare the time with the tall, pale-looking Scot, prompting a McEwan tantrum quite recently and a career that seems to be going nowhere. McEwan, 28, fought just twice last year.
As for the result, both men men bust up and I'll mention that in case of a cuts ending, but McEwan has shown a little bit more of nothing than Lee down the years and I lean towards him.
quit smoking Bennie ? :OhYes: