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Yannick v McKinnon, McConville v Pownceby

caveman wrote:Yannick v McKinnon, McConville v Pownceby

Yannick/McKinnon is a 50/50 job (subject to which local regulator is on the job). McConville will beat Pownceby with ease.
I'd like to see kid killer & female basher Pownceby sprawled on the canvas, with pink budgies circling his head for 10 minutes, but that's unlikely as Shane is a gentleman fighter & not a kill merchant.

Anton, what do you mean kid killer???? Thats a big call if true. Can we get an explanation.

Hounddawg wrote:Anton, what do you mean kid killer???? Thats a big call if true. Can we get an explanation.

He killed his partner's kid (can't recall if his) while amateur puncher. Big stink at one stage, whether he should be allowed into OZ to compete in a tournament & whether he should be allowed to box full stop.
Google the above info, I'm sure you'll find media articles relating to it.
Since then he's been charged with 2 assaults on other partners, most recent mid-late last year, hence the reason he hadn't fought outside NZ 'cos he's on restricted bail.

Da Voice wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:Anton, what do you mean kid killer???? Thats a big call if true. Can we get an explanation.

He killed his partner's kid (can't recall if his) while amateur puncher. Big stink at one stage, whether he should be allowed into OZ to compete in a tournament & whether he should be allowed to box full stop.
Google the above info, I'm sure you'll find media articles relating to it.
Since then he's been charged with 2 assaults on other partners, most recent mid-late last year, hence the reason he hadn't fought outside NZ 'cos he's on restricted bail.

Thanks I will do

Hounddawg wrote:

Da Voice wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:Anton, what do you mean kid killer???? Thats a big call if true. Can we get an explanation.

He killed his partner's kid (can't recall if his) while amateur puncher. Big stink at one stage, whether he should be allowed into OZ to compete in a tournament & whether he should be allowed to box full stop.
Google the above info, I'm sure you'll find media articles relating to it.
Since then he's been charged with 2 assaults on other partners, most recent mid-late last year, hence the reason he hadn't fought outside NZ 'cos he's on restricted bail.

Thanks I will do

Actually, big stink was whether he should be allowed to compete in 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne
If he ever made an appearance in OZ pro ring, I reckon spectators would boo him out of the ring before 1st punch was thrown.

Yeah I said it! Im still disgusted, i'm a father of 2 and 1 on the way, to hurt your kid......well i just can't comprehend that

But i will say that it shouldn't be me judging him.

Tiger, thankyou for your invite, at any other fight please extend the same courtesy and i would love to catch up/meet you, for some reason...maybe name sake, you and i might actually know each other and possibly be related. It's my creed, and it's not cause he's done some nic, half the blokes i grew up with end up serving time for arm robbery, assault ect, i obviously chose a different path, so it's not me looking down on anyone, i just don't think there's forgiveness for rockspiders or kiddie killers.

Thats all i ever say on the matter.

Personally, if I was Shane's trainer/manager no way would I stoop so low to put him in the ring with scum Pownceby.
Wouldn't have a problem sticking the likes of Bora Altintas (now deceased) in the ring with him, who'd have no problem pulling a gun out of abdomen protector & shattering his head mid first round.

Hey De Voice,dont no ya and dont plan to but love the way you put boxers down on this lovely site.Who gives a crap about a boxers past its the present that counts.Have most recently as last night had the chance to watch Pownceby spar with one of NZ up and comming boxers and couldnt care less about his past nor could i care about yours for that matter.Takes a brave man\women to get in the ring in this wonderful game boxing..

cjscott, I believe you are totally wrong in trying to get people to ignore what that guy allowed to happen to a small child that he was responsible for.

Collins2000 wrote:cjscott, I believe you are totally wrong in trying to get people to ignore what that guy allowed to happen to a small child that he was responsible for.

Collins2000,I anit sticking up for Soul nither do i want to get into a debate about a boxers personal life on a web site.I came on this site to learn more about our wonderful sport boxing not to put fellow boxers\promoters down who put there time\money and welfare into this sport..We all learn from mistakes as i am sure you would agree.

I have read box Rec forums for about a year and always enjoy. I love hearing houndawgs post but don't stoop to the likes of the others that get personal about people. I understand what yr saying but this was in trouble 15 or 16 years ago. Let's focus on the now which is thT it show us if we focus and train hard and be positive we can turn our lives around. I heard the guy has a degree as well now. Not many boxers with those. Why nOt ask guys like Charlie or boa whT he is like as they seem tO be online alot and must have meet him

I think this will be a great fight between the Aussie champ and top kiwi. I'll be buying a table for this. Also serge vs danial will be great. Why don't you come Hound and watch as will be great fight and you can a have a seat on my table.

While we are on the subject of NZ fights April 14th is a Night of the REMATCHES one is 8 years in the making...........

Clarence Tillman VS Joey Wilson - The first was a good tough fight, with Clarence finishing the stronger but Wilson getting the SD6 nod! Should be a very good Rematch!

John Conway VS Tapanuu Tagilima - Conway is one of NZ's best refs/judges however he'll be in the ring again making his comeback against the man who sent him into retirement Tagilima. Tagilima hasnt set the world on fire as a pro but this is a rematch 8 years in the making and Conway looks to avenge his only loss as a pro!

mcconville camp wont be worrying about wat happens outside the ring,there is nothing they can do about that,its wat happens inside the ring that counts to them

Hoping Shane has at least an ounce of killer instinct in him & sends the cu*t into oblivion.

I agree with Hounddog 100%.

Not going to comment any further, I have 3 kids of my own and thinking about it makes me to angry.

caveman wrote:mcconville camp wont be worrying about wat happens outside the ring,there is nothing they can do about that,its wat happens inside the ring that counts to them

Cave, I am with you on this one, while i cannot condone what Soul Pownceby supposedly has done, I think we all should be focussed on the actual fight. after-all, we are fight fans aren't we, we are not solicitors or policeman looking for a job to right the wrong.

I'm sure that Soul will eventually be judged for his wrong doings, but i am just interested in the fight, it's the same as some of these footballers who have supposedly raped and had their ways with young girl supporters, they still have to produce their best form on the paddock, otherwise their out, same as a fighter, he still has to perform in the ring or his career is soon over, so what happens outside should be left to others to sort out, leave the sport to regulate and sort itself out and this can best be done by performance.

I am sure that Nick and Shane McConville would not give a sh*t about his past, and they certainly dont give a rats about his future, it's just a good solid matchup between two very good fighters irrespective of ones past indescretions.

I will be there on a junket....err.... i mean Supervisor's assignment, I will give an accurate account of the fight for you guys, i know it will be competitive and this will also show us all just where Shane and also Soul are in the bigger scheme of things.

I'm sure McConville can go on to bigger things, same as Pownceby, even tho his past maybe clouded, lets just see what he does inside the boxing ring, put it this way, as a judge, i cannot judge the guy on what he did outside the ring, I will only judge his performance during the fight, thats what i'm saying we should do.

But beleive me, I don't support what he was supposed to have done, and if what ive been told he did do, then he has some serious problem's, but that's for him to sort through, i have been told he is a reasonably good bloke outside the ring, and i will treat him same as he treats me.

Footnote: I also have two daughter's and while sometime i feel like strangling them and my ex missus, it would never happen, so i can understand some of your feelings in here, just for the record, i am 0-54 against my ex missus, never won a fight yet? ha-ha.

Brad Vocale

You can never win against your Mrs. They don't fight fair, they use all sorts of illegal tactics to win the fight ( they remember everything you have done wrong for the past 10 years)

ben k wrote:You can never win against your Mrs. They don't fight fair, they use all sorts of illegal tactics to win the fight ( they remember everything you have done wrong for the past 10 years)

Ben, never a truer word spoken, I lost badly sometimes as well, I think they'd call it a Loss KO by 1,

I could never win an argument, she would know what i was thinking next week, most times Ha-ha.

Plus the fact i did plenty wrong as well, and they are like an elephant, "never forget"

Cheers,

Brad

kylamy wrote:

ben k wrote:You can never win against your Mrs. They don't fight fair, they use all sorts of illegal tactics to win the fight ( they remember everything you have done wrong for the past 10 years)

Ben, never a truer word spoken, I lost badly sometimes as well, I think they'd call it a Loss KO by 1,

I could never win an argument, she would know what i was thinking next week, most times Ha-ha.

Plus the fact i did plenty wrong as well, and they are like an elephant, "never forget"

Cheers,

Brad

Hey Brad, hows the golf treating ya these days? Seen Soul spar with one of NZs up and comming heavy weights last week he is looking quite fit.Hope all is well on the Gold coast.

Da Voice wrote:

caveman wrote:Yannick v McKinnon, McConville v Pownceby

Yannick/McKinnon is a 50/50 job (subject to which local regulator is on the job). McConville will beat Pownceby with ease.
I'd like to see kid killer & female basher Pownceby sprawled on the canvas, with pink budgies circling his head for 10 minutes, but that's unlikely as Shane is a gentleman fighter & not a kill merchant.

Da Voice you so negative indeed mate!!!...the issue against Soul has been mauled over and over for nearly a decade now. Everyone knows as it was a on the news but stop looking back and try to look forward to a good year of boxing. So stop reminding patrons about negative issues as we've all got weaknesses and we try to thrive on positives and the good side of us.

Soul been paying for his misfits and childish cruel act for sometimes now through hate mail, bad press, nightmares and regrets. i tell you that this guy has trully reformed and is trying to thrive on his positive attributes. So what are you not going to give people a chance to reform? Even the muderers, rapists and bad ass crims in jails do reform and have regrets for their bad pasts.

Please leave Soul alone and don't add fire to this issue. Also please leave boxing alone and don't bring your political and social issues into the boxing game. We want to talk boxing and the matchups between the kiwis vs kangaroos on this show. PLEASE DON'T LET YOUR NEGATIVITY INFECTING THIS FORUM AND THE POSITIVE MINDS OF THE PATRONS/POSTERS.

Is there aren't any better things to do than looking for negative things in people. Mate you slag anyone who crosses your path or have different views from you. We all humans and do have the good and bad in us but we're so lucky in this forum that we got the same common interest and that is boxing which we can talk, discuss and give opions on. Not looking to discuss negative issues which produces negativity.

Please show some respect to other posters and don't bring negative opinions onto this site and boxrec. Boxing is all we known..AMEN

I met Soul last year and all I can say is that he conducted himself like a gentleman and was respectful to Joel and I before and after the fight.

Having said that I really don't know the guy personally having only briefly met him so I can' really judge him but we weren't there to judge him we were there to fight him and he was the better man on the night.

Hey da voice have u forgotten about marcel and what he did or my favorite fighter arturo and what he did to woman. Not to mention the man himself ali. I know they didnt hurt kids but all guilty of touchin up woman. We love and respect all of them. U just keep puttin people down as long as u feel good.

I don't concern myself with boxers outside OZ & NZ

dont know if shane will beat pownceby easily,pownceby is ranked number 5 in the wbo, he also beat casey, gunna be a ripper i reckon