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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Vitali over Bowe? How?

BarryWashington wrote:

The Great John L wrote:Holmes
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Bowe
Klitschko, V.
Klitschko, W.
Tucker
Douglas
Tubbs
Witherspoon
Dokes
Bruno
Thomas, P.
Weaver
Spinks, M.
Moorer
Page
Byrd
Berbick
Tua
Smith, BC
Cooney
Coetzee
Ruddock

I think you're underrated Coetzee (assuming that list is in order).

Coetzee deserved the decision over Snipes (even if it wasn't a 10 point must system, Coetzee probably won 6-3-1 or 7-3).

Coetzee deserved the decision over Thomas (a draw was reasonable).

Coetzee gave prime Tate a tough fight.

Coetzee gave prime Weaver a tough fight before the TKO.

Coetzee KO'd a prime Dokes.

I'll make my list later.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Vitali over Bowe? How?

Ezzard wrote:Mike Spinks woul have been detonated by Frank Bruno, Mike Weaver, Bonecrusher, Tommy Morrison...

I'm surprised at how many lists he's making.

Holmes-Holy is very close. Lewis is really not far behind. I'm surprised at how few of us disagree on the top rankings.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Mike Spinks woul have been detonated by Frank Bruno, Mike Weaver, Bonecrusher, Tommy Morrison...

I'm surprised at how many lists he's making.

Holmes-Holy is very close. Lewis is really not far behind. I'm surprised at how few of us disagree on the top rankings.

Got to disagree with you on Spinks. If he beat Larry Holmes twice, then he would school the four on your list.

Agree with you on Klitschko and Bowe. Apart from Holyfield, who did Bowe beat, A has been (Dokes) and a never was (Ferguson).

Ezzard wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Mike Spinks woul have been detonated by Frank Bruno, Mike Weaver, Bonecrusher, Tommy Morrison...

I'm surprised at how many lists he's making.

Holmes-Holy is very close. Lewis is really not far behind. I'm surprised at how few of us disagree on the top rankings.

Got to disagree with you on Spinks. If he beat Larry Holmes twice, then he would school the four on your list.

Agree with you on Klitschko and Bowe. Apart from Holyfield, who did Bowe beat, A has been (Dokes) and a never was (Ferguson).

He scraped by an aged Holmes (many thought he lost the rematch) and then avoided any real contenders until he could tap out against Tyson with a huge pay day.

I am a huge Mike fan. I totally wanted him to win his fights but he could not hold a HW shot and he knew it. Holmes had him going but was too old to follow it up.

Ezzard wrote:Not much in it.

Bowe is more fluid and has more to his game. Vitali is much more reliable. Both men were giants but Vitali fought more intelligently.

I just picked Vitali's consistency.

The Great John L wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Not much in it.

Bowe is more fluid and has more to his game. Vitali is much more reliable. Both men were giants but Vitali fought more intelligently.

I just picked Vitali's consistency.

He also can stop punches with something other than his face.

Ezzard wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Vitali over Bowe? How?

Not much in it.

Bowe is more fluid and has more to his game. Vitali is much more reliable. Both men were giants but Vitali fought more intelligently.

I just picked Vitali's consistency.

The Great John L wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Not much in it.

Bowe is more fluid and has more to his game. Vitali is much more reliable. Both men were giants but Vitali fought more intelligently.

I just picked Vitali's consistency.

He also can stop punches with something other than his face.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

The Great John L wrote:

Ezzard wrote:Not much in it.

Bowe is more fluid and has more to his game. Vitali is much more reliable. Both men were giants but Vitali fought more intelligently.

I just picked Vitali's consistency.

He also can stop punches with something other than his face.

Not against a real opponent.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

The Great John L wrote: He also can stop punches with something other than his face.

Not against a real opponent.

Jesse Ferguson and Michael Dokes were REAL opponents? Bowe's title reign was a joke.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You confuse so easily, do you seriously think that response has a thing to do with what you quoted? You can't be that slow.

The proper retort would be that at least Vitali had the stones to fight Lewis. But to pretend he is some great defender because he beat a slew of punching bags is just plain silly.

Bowe beat Holyfield twice, Vitali has nothing near that. End of story.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You confuse so easily, do you seriously think that response has a thing to do with what you quoted? You can't be that slow.

The proper retort would be that at least Vitali had the stones to fight Lewis. But to pretend he is some great defender because he beat a slew of punching bags is just plain silly.

Bowe beat Holyfield twice, Vitali has nothing near that. End of story.

Vitali didn't have the opportunity to fight Holyfield. He did, as you mentioned have the nuts to fight Lewis.

Vitali hasn't ducked anyone. Bowe proved he was a gutless coward when he refused to fight Lewis. All the while claiming that he was the man. Pathetic.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You confuse so easily, do you seriously think that response has a thing to do with what you quoted? You can't be that slow.

The proper retort would be that at least Vitali had the stones to fight Lewis. But to pretend he is some great defender because he beat a slew of punching bags is just plain silly.

Bowe beat Holyfield twice, Vitali has nothing near that. End of story.

Vitali didn't have the opportunity to fight Holyfield. He did, as you mentioned have the nuts to fight Lewis.

Vitali hasn't ducked anyone. Bowe proved he was a gutless coward when he refused to fight Lewis. All the while claiming that he was the man. Pathetic.

Vitali retired instead of fighting Rahman and still hasn't fought him. You can play the hyperbole game with any fighter.

Calling Bowe gutless is quite pathetic, he was one of the ballsier fighters of his time. But I don't expect any objectivity from you, that's why I rarely read a word you write.