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He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 18:24
by lefty
Ive never fully understood what this means?Could someone enlighten me please?Cheers
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 19:17
by hurlock
he takes his time & is controlled & relaxed like a pro.
basically the ams is a sprint & some good kids are easily pipped by boxing whippets & are better in the pro's.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 19:30
by lefty
hurlock wrote:he takes his time & is controlled & relaxed like a pro.
basically the ams is a sprint & some good kids are easily pipped by boxing whippets & are better in the pro's.
What you mean ie in the ams its just completely frenetic and half the time you cant see what punches land!
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 19:35
by magnus
Body shots don't seem to be counted in a lot of am fights these days...
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 19:44
by lefty
magnus wrote:Body shots don't seem to be counted in a lot of am fights these days...
quite alot of shots generally dont seem to score when they should from fights ive seen!
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 20:01
by Hagler2002
Plants his feet putting more into the shots rather than jab and run.
John Davidson from Newcastle is a good example of this.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 04:52
by bennie
It means the amateur judges hate your style. Watch the best fight of the entire 1984 Olympics: America's Jerry Page versus Thailand's rugged, aggressive Dhawee Umponmaha in the light-welterweight final.
Page boxes well and fights it out when he has to, but the Thai is pushing him back, whipping in the body punches and landing big left hooks to the head. It's close. It could go either way. The Thai definitely wins what should be the deciding third round.
All five judges go for Page.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 05:00
by Scrap
Where were the 84 oylimpics
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Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 05:02
by Scottrf
Scrap wrote:Where were the 84 oylimpics
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Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 05:04
by bennie
Most definitely, but the Thai was too damn professional.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 13:02
by hurlock
bennie wrote:Most definitely, but the Thai was too damn professional.
how would you score bennie?? i.e what would you look out for??
personally i think style, balance,slipping & clever manouvering which are not awarded from a computer should reflect in the scoring aswell as a visibly tiring fighter looking to survive.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 19:01
by rhino222
not all good amateurs make good pros, audley is a good example of this, mastered the art of landing decent single shots then gettin gout of the way. throwing combos to head and body are not frequent scorers on the amateur circuit, but in the pro game its bread and butter. both codes of sport work off the jab, but the amateur game is likely to see single shots back up the jab, whereas the pro game could see almost any approach acceptable after the lead.
Re: He's an amateur but fights like a pro
Posted: 09 Feb 2011, 04:01
by bennie
hurlock wrote:bennie wrote:Most definitely, but the Thai was too damn professional.
how would you score bennie?? i.e what would you look out for??
personally i think style, balance,slipping & clever manouvering which are not awarded from a computer should reflect in the scoring aswell as a visibly tiring fighter looking to survive.
Get the jab working and then throw lots of straight right hands. Judges love straight right hands. Throw the odd left hook, of course, but nothing flashy like uppercuts, which are often a complete waste of time anyway and easy to counter. Acknowledge the referee when you pick up the inevitable petty warnings (most judges are also referees). Hold the centre of the ring and push the man back. Judges think the man going forward is winning.