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Maybe im getting way way carried away, but can arnie and frank push as hard as possible to get frankie out to the states to train and spar with fmj ! why ? because if khan can win olympic silver and regually spar pacman, im sure frankie (world amateur gold medalist) can go one better, i know mayweathers busy right now with other issues but im sure warrens contacts could make it happen, after all floyd keeps saying how much he loves the british. i think frankie and arnie would benifit so much from a week or two around fmj training, and i know frankie would hold his own, what do you guys think ?

Sounds great in theory, not so sure how it works in practise. I would have thought he gets those sorts of requests all the time from boxers from all over the world. I know Degale and a few others went over there not so long back but that was only for a day or so. Maybe if the Pac fight comes off and he needs some southpaw sparring and wants someone younger and fresher than Corley? Would be good for him, no doubt aboout that. Not sure what Arnie would learn from Roger other than Pac is on 'roids though.

yer i did think mayweather probably gets alot of requests, i suppose roger would be hard to work alongside but im sure they both wouldent turn it down.

Mayweather probably isn't in training at the moment and definitely won't be sparring. The broader plan should be to get Gavin over to the states to do some concentrated sparring in a lot of different gyms - the talent pool is just a lot deeper than over here.

Khan surely has benefited from sparring Pacquiao but also the hundreds of other boxers that visit the wildcard.

Already on to it m8

Arnie wrote:Already on to it m8

great to hear that arnie, keep us informed, by the way i was very impressed with hefron saturday, and im running out of words for frankie ! keep up the good work.

Cheers Jessi, Frankie was very good but that was second gear to what I no he can do! Ronnie is much better than he showed (much better) but I think the experience of fighting on sky live for the first time will improve him mentally and try not to impress so much next time

Arnie wrote:Already on to it m8

Great to hear too. Frankie is oozing class at the moment Arnie, keep doing what you are doing!!

if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

fasteddie wrote:if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

You speaking from experience there? This view some people have that America=better is stupid! Training with mayweather would be great tho!

WATERBOY wrote:

fasteddie wrote:if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

You speaking from experience there? This view some people have that America=better is stupid! Training with mayweather would be great tho!

I dont think its a case of the trainers are better but rather the amount of talented boxers out in the states is greater and thus the sparring is better.

Arnie wrote:Cheers Jessi, Frankie was very good but that was second gear to what I no he can do! Ronnie is much better than he showed (much better) but I think the experience of fighting on sky live for the first time will improve him mentally and try not to impress so much next time

I was abit disappointed with heffron on saturday arnie but like you said he was trying to impress to much rather than boxing

hey arnie why are you now whispering in the ear in the corner. are you scared of your advice being criticised ha!! D D

Not scared of nowt m8haters fuel the fire

Hefron looked good, he's young and keen and looks pretty heavy handed. Frankie pulled away and is a spiteful little git at times, whacking away. You get the impression he's a quireboy who can box well but has no pop in his punches; that is not the case. He is setting out to beat the other bloke up.

simon fox wrote:Hefron looked good, he's young and keen and looks pretty heavy handed. Frankie pulled away and is a spiteful little git at times, whacking away. You get the impression he's a quireboy who can box well but has no pop in his punches; that is not the case. He is setting out to beat the other bloke up.

I have to say,i thought heffron brawled too much instead of using his superior boxing skills

Arnie wrote:Not scared of nowt m8haters fuel the fire

only kidding, but i know your a clever lad & will charge pay per listen

Arnie wrote:Cheers Jessi, Frankie was very good but that was second gear to what I no he can do! Ronnie is much better than he showed (much better) but I think the experience of fighting on sky live for the first time will improve him mentally and try not to impress so much next time

ah forgot about the young lad Ronnie, over eager but you could see he had pedigree and handle himself in a tear up. Good chin too by the looks of it.

I was thinking if thats the worste he gets then his best must be pretty damn good.

Arnie wrote:Not scared of nowt m8haters fuel the fire

Hey arnie how do you see frankie doing against theophane now he's the british champ?Tough fight or do you think frankie could outbox him pretty easily?

hurlock wrote:

Arnie wrote:Not scared of nowt m8haters fuel the fire

only kidding, but i know your a clever lad & will charge pay per listen

Hha

lefty wrote:

Arnie wrote:Not scared of nowt m8haters fuel the fire

Hey arnie how do you see frankie doing against theophane now he's the british champ?Tough fight or do you think frankie could outbox him pretty easily?

Can't see Ashley as a walkover hes British champ, but Frankie will read him within the first 2 then it's game over for him.

WATERBOY wrote:

fasteddie wrote:if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

You speaking from experience there? This view some people have that America=better is stupid! Training with mayweather would be great tho!

im talking from fact waterboy,i took a lad down to west ham boys club to sparr someone in 2006,it was ash theophane,he was a stand up straight style fighter still tough but no movement. the same guy i took down sparred ash before his title fight on saturday and ash was a totally different fighter from that of 2006,he was slick,loads of head movement and tricky with his shots this is from his time in the states imo

fasteddie wrote:

WATERBOY wrote:

fasteddie wrote:if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

You speaking from experience there? This view some people have that America=better is stupid! Training with mayweather would be great tho!

im talking from fact waterboy,i took a lad down to west ham boys club to sparr someone in 2006,it was ash theophane,he was a stand up straight style fighter still tough but no movement. the same guy i took down sparred ash before his title fight on saturday and ash was a totally different fighter from that of 2006,he was slick,loads of head movement and tricky with his shots this is from his time in the states imo

how would theophane get on with williams iyo ?

fasteddie wrote:

WATERBOY wrote:

fasteddie wrote:if any fighter has the chance to get to the states and sparr the best out there id say yes give it a go cause you will learn more out there than in a gym in manchester,liverpool or birmingham

You speaking from experience there? This view some people have that America=better is stupid! Training with mayweather would be great tho!

im talking from fact waterboy,i took a lad down to west ham boys club to sparr someone in 2006,it was ash theophane,he was a stand up straight style fighter still tough but no movement. the same guy i took down sparred ash before his title fight on saturday and ash was a totally different fighter from that of 2006,he was slick,loads of head movement and tricky with his shots this is from his time in the states imo

Haha fuk me give any fighter 5 years training and there'll improve!

I think Ash takes too long to get into the fight and he won't always have the chance to peg back the scores in the second half of the bout. I very much doubt he would fight Gavin anyway.