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Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 06:49
by SOUTHPAW
Whats next for the Hitter.................
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 06:53
by lefty
SOUTHPAW wrote:Whats next for the Hitter.................
retirement or the domestic scene
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 06:56
by jameswilson
Retirement I hope. I aint watched the loss at the weekend but watching one round of the Alexander fight his timing and accuracy had completely gone. He used to be tricky accurate and powerful, but in that Alexander fight he missed one punch by so much he ended up doing a forward flip onto his arse. His game relied lot on using angles and hitting guys accurately from these awkward angles. His reflexes and speed are now gone probably as a result of age and inactivity. So I'd say retire. He won a World title and defended it a few times most notably against Vivian Harris and for that he can be proud.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 07:01
by SOUTHPAW
too inactive maybe................
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 07:44
by dondada
He needs to improve his core fitness (perhaps his knee injury has really set back his running) and get back on the domestic scene, IMO (or retire).
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 07:45
by stujones
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:He needs to improve his core fitness (perhaps his knee injury has really set back his running) and get back on the domestic scene, IMO (or retire).
Its not been great for a while IMO. Not as dire as it was on Saturday granted, but always been a weakness.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 07:46
by TheCobra
3 defeats in 4 fights and also far too inactive. Long way back now for Witter, probably either retire or try again at British level as others have said.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 07:57
by Deno1986
TheCobra wrote:3 defeats in 4 fights and also far too inactive. Long way back now for Witter, probably either retire or try again at British level as others have said.
We could exclude the Bradely loss and also the Alexander loss due to the quality of the opposition but the most recent outing proves he is finished. It would be hard for a fighter like Witter to drop back down to the Domestic scene, probably best to call it a day.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 08:47
by bennie
Junior Witter usually struggles if he fails to budge opponents so the Hitter's move from his light-welterweight wrecking zone to welterweight was always fraught with potential disappointment. It worked out that way over the weekend as 36-year-old Junior (or should I say Senior) dropped a unanimous 10-round decision to Romania's promising but unheralded Victor Lupo in Canada, which is a long way to go to suddenly find yourself a stepping stone. Witter's career looks just about finished after 14 years and 43 fights, after three losses in his last four fights.
You know, Witter was held to a draw in his very first fight back in 1997 but you could see the potential and he developed quickly under legendary Sheffield trainer Brendan Ingle - and developed quickness. His speed combined with natural power began spilling one opponent after another but the real turning point came, ironically, after he failed to fire on a rainy night in Glasgow in June 2000 against brash American southpaw Zab Judah and was outscored over 12 dull rounds.
"I saw where I was going wrong," said the switch-hitting Bradford man who took the fight at nine days' notice for an injured Jason Rowland and he proceeded to reel off 21 straight victories (17 early) to spark talk - relentless talk - of a showdown between him and big domestic rival Ricky Hatton, a 'natural' showdown which could and should have happened. Even when the two men lifted different world belts - and major world belts they were too - promotional differences kept them apart at a time when the BBC and ITV were still sniffing round the sport. Make no mistake about it, Witter's dangerous counterpunching ability would have gelled superbly with Hatton's non-stop aggression and body work, and who knows which way it would have gone, and how much it hurt the sport.
Hatton made his way to the States to cash in on his pigmentation as Witter stayed and retained his WBC light-welterweight belt a couple of times, including a career-best seven-round destruction of "Vicious" Vivian Harris in Doncaster in 2007. However, he dropped the belt a year later on a split decision to America's Tim Bradley in Nottingham. Witter would have won but for a flash knockdown he suffered in the sixth round from an overhand right everyone could see coming bar the champion himself. His lightning reflexes were waning, and two fights later the clever but unremarkable Devon Alexander stopped him in eight rounds in the States, where Hatton, by this time, was also getting hammered.
The dream was over, but to sum it up and the two men will always inevitably be intertwined, Hatton could fight and Witter could fight. They just didn't fight each other.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 08:57
by Josh1111
retire from boxing and never be seen again on britich tv. Sick of hearing this guy talk, he's useless
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 09:07
by dondada
Josh1111 wrote:retire from boxing and never be seen again on britich tv. Sick of hearing this guy talk, he's useless
He's not very good now but he was once upon a time...
Time will catch up with you too, whatever it is you do...
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 09:12
by Tommy Gunn13
Just glad Khans team didnt take the witter fight....Retirement seems the best option..
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 10:44
by whiskey
Prizefighter.
147 or 154.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 11:54
by jameswilson
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Josh1111 wrote:retire from boxing and never be seen again on britich tv. Sick of hearing this guy talk, he's useless
He's not very good now but he was once upon a time...
Time will catch up with you too, whatever it is you do...
Unless he works in an old peoples home that is.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 12:00
by alexpaterson
Denton Vassell, good test for him
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 12:03
by tear up
SOUTHPAW wrote:Whats next for the Hitter.................
the only word for him retire he can t sell tickets even when

he was champ how the fornicate will he now his style is borein he is borein he won more or less evethink now leave it as his career will look bad he keeps gettin beat i wouldnt even say if i were him ill have one more fight go out with a winning record he finished

he never was one of my favourite fighters and to borein but please retire
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 12:16
by dondada
The irony is, of course, the more beatable he becomes, the more easily he will be to match.
He won't have made a fortune out of the sport by any means and I hope he gets a couple of lucrative pay days - as long as he doesn't get bashed up for it.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 12:43
by Josh1111
jameswilson wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Josh1111 wrote:retire from boxing and never be seen again on britich tv. Sick of hearing this guy talk, he's useless
He's not very good now but he was once upon a time...
Time will catch up with you too, whatever it is you do...
Unless he works in an old peoples home that is.
haha no, i just sit on my fat arse in an office all day. I agree, he won a world title so you cant argue that he was once a talent, but as you say, he's not very good any more. He should give up his dreams and coach some young kids as his time in the ring has long gone
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 12:52
by orbtastic
Feels like he's been around forever. I remember watching him almost 12 years ago to the day at about 1am in a freezing cold Newcastle arena and thinking "he looks a bit good".
His style is one that depends on reflexes and balance and it appears he's losing both so while he's fit and hasn't got ridiculously out of shape it was also a bit alarming how he seemed to gas badly late in the fight.
Reminds of Herol Graham towards the end of his career. Still flashes of it but time catches up with everyone.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 15:46
by tear up
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:The irony is, of course, the more beatable he becomes, the more easily he will be to match.
He won't have made a fortune out of the sport by any means and I hope he gets a couple of lucrative pay days - as long as he doesn't get bashed up for it.
but truth which who ever put s show on would sky accept him to like s of watson or vassel no they wont he is borein well done to him but has been borein for years i cant see how hell get a call for the domestic scene mind hope not as i wont b watchin him sorry i

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Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 16:01
by palooka
orbtastic wrote:Feels like he's been around forever. I remember watching him almost 12 years ago to the day at about 1am in a freezing cold Newcastle arena and thinking "he looks a bit good".
His style is one that depends on reflexes and balance and it appears he's losing both so while he's fit and hasn't got ridiculously out of shape it was also a bit alarming how he seemed to gas badly late in the fight.
Reminds of Herol Graham towards the end of his career. Still flashes of it but time catches up with everyone.
I agree; it is a shame. Junior was an excellent fighter in his prime and did well after early career set backs and really reinvented himself after the Judah 'fight'. It is a shame he ran in that bout and didn't just give it a go and get stopped. The TV networks would have embraced him much more and he would've made a lot more money. Although he comes across as being arrogant and a bit of a dick on TV I have it on good authority that he is a really good bloke, down to earth and unpretentious away from the cameras.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 17:33
by SOUTHPAW
orbtastic wrote:Feels like he's been around forever. I remember watching him almost 12 years ago to the day at about 1am in a freezing cold Newcastle arena and thinking "he looks a bit good".
His style is one that depends on reflexes and balance and it appears he's losing both so while he's fit and hasn't got ridiculously out of shape it was also a bit alarming how he seemed to gas badly late in the fight.
Reminds of Herol Graham towards the end of his career. Still flashes of it but time catches up with everyone.
Not really.......Herol had just beaten the unbeaten Chris Johnson,Vinny Paz and then floored brewer twice before getting stopped...Junior has slipped well below that....but was world champ nobody can ever take that away from him...well done Junior
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 18:10
by cakes
Might need a change of camps look what it did for Rhodes ???
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 18:12
by NazNaci1
I think he needs to call it.
Hamed, when he lost his speed and timing, was nowhere near the same fighter and retired. Same for Witter, I feel.
Rhodes had decent boxing skills, that he developed and relied upon, as he got older. Witter hasn't.
Re: Whats next for Witter
Posted: 21 Feb 2011, 18:47
by TheCobra
36 is pretty old for a Light Welter (welter now I know but hasnt had any success there). Probably time to call it a day.