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I'm not knocking Burns here, but the Sky team. The lad was doing an open session today in Scotland and the broadcast lasted about 5 minutes. In that time the Sky preceded to call Burns the super middleweight champ, then a few minutes later the super lightweight champ, then when they showed him sparring our own Derry, the called him a former world champ.

Ed, if you reading, have a word, matey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3zd6IuR35U

This one?

True professional that interviewer. Obviously has an exemplary knowledge of the sport.

Nice, "Light...Super Middleweight...Super Lightweight, Jim", eventually nails it as the Super Featherweight title. Wonder if someone was gesturing in the background, pointing down when he went too high. 'Warmer, Warmer, ' Although good to see Burns on SSN anyway!

Yet more evidence that Sky Sports News is totally lost when talking about anything other than football.

Glyn Leach wrote:Yet more evidence that Sky Sports News is totally lost when talking about anything other than football.

You're already in enough trouble about the washing up, without making enemies at Sky

I'll tell you what pissed me off; when they called Mathews a former world champ I sneered and called the TV a cock-sucker. My misses then asked what was the matter, so I told her that Mathews wasn't ever a world champ, and she said, and I quote, "why would they lie?". Proof on how their MO work regarding boxing/casual fans.

They know what they're doing regarding the truth, and it doesn't sit right with me.

He didn't call Matthews a former world champ did he? He won the English title, so is a former champ. Not that that's probably the distinction they were making.

Scottrf wrote:He didn't call Matthews a former world champ did he? He won the English title, so is a former champ. Not that that's probably the distinction they were making.

I'm sure they said world champ, but I can't access that video cos I'm working. But I suppose I could be wrong.

And didn't Mathews win the WBU belt?

I know he wasn't a recognised world champ, but I saw your comment about Derry before I watched the video and seem to remember him only saying champ. Just a technicality though as he surely meant world.

In that video did they call Mathews a former world champ?

Dioufy wrote:In that video did they call Mathews a former world champ?

i thought they just said a former champ, no mention of world that i noticed

Dioufy wrote:I'll tell you what pissed me off; when they called Mathews a former world champ I sneered and called the TV a cock-sucker. My misses then asked what was the matter, so I told her that Mathews wasn't ever a world champ, and she said, and I quote, "why would they lie?". Proof on how their MO work regarding boxing/casual fans.

They know what they're doing regarding the truth, and it doesn't sit right with me.

so, so true.

In a way boxing brings it on itself.

All the weights, all the belts, who can keep up.

Don't confuse the reporter or the punter, just say "boxer, Ricky Burns..." !

jim watt says derry mathews is a former champion, he is a former english and wbu champion so even not recognizing the wbu as a world title by saying he is a former champion they are correct, he doesnt say former world champion

That's hilarious. It's just the way he says it, really fast, cos he obviously hasn't a clue. "WB...Light-Super-middleweight/Super-lightweight - Jim..."

they did say derry is a former world champ himself,he did hold the wbu that he won of steve foster jnr dont you remember boys?

chinny wrote:In a way boxing brings it on itself.

All the weights, all the belts, who can keep up.

Don't confuse the reporter or the punter, just say "boxer, Ricky Burns..." !

I agree with you.

Dioufy wrote:I'll tell you what pissed me off; when they called Mathews a former world champ I sneered and called the TV a cock-sucker. My misses then asked what was the matter, so I told her that Mathews wasn't ever a world champ, and she said, and I quote, "why would they lie?". Proof on how their MO work regarding boxing/casual fans.

They know what they're doing regarding the truth, and it doesn't sit right with me.

I've had the same arguement over and over again about belts and titles but derry was WBU champ and beat a good Ste Foster during his WBU days,you tell micky ward he wasn't a world champ when he won his WORLD title from Shea Neary.So Derry was a world champ in tha majority of peoples eyes.If not yours diofy

boxingfarmer30 wrote:

Dioufy wrote:I'll tell you what pissed me off; when they called Mathews a former world champ I sneered and called the TV a cock-sucker. My misses then asked what was the matter, so I told her that Mathews wasn't ever a world champ, and she said, and I quote, "why would they lie?". Proof on how their MO work regarding boxing/casual fans.

They know what they're doing regarding the truth, and it doesn't sit right with me.

I've had the same arguement over and over again about belts and titles but derry was WBU champ and beat a good Ste Foster during his WBU days,you tell micky ward he wasn't a world champ when he won his WORLD title from Shea Neary.So Derry was a world champ in tha majority of peoples eyes.If not yours diofy

I didn't say Ward was a world champion because he beat Neary. I don't rank the WBU anyhow, otherwise I might as well rank shit like the IBA, IBC. If they can call Mathews a world chmpion, or at least insinuate it, then no wonder boxing is such a minority sport.

Dioufy wrote:

boxingfarmer30 wrote:

Dioufy wrote:I'll tell you what pissed me off; when they called Mathews a former world champ I sneered and called the TV a cock-sucker. My misses then asked what was the matter, so I told her that Mathews wasn't ever a world champ, and she said, and I quote, "why would they lie?". Proof on how their MO work regarding boxing/casual fans.

They know what they're doing regarding the truth, and it doesn't sit right with me.

I've had the same arguement over and over again about belts and titles but derry was WBU champ and beat a good Ste Foster during his WBU days,you tell micky ward he wasn't a world champ when he won his WORLD title from Shea Neary.So Derry was a world champ in tha majority of peoples eyes.If not yours diofy

I didn't say Ward was a world champion because he beat Neary. I don't rank the WBU anyhow, otherwise I might as well rank shit like the IBA, IBC. If they can call Mathews a world chmpion, or at least insinuate it, then no wonder boxing is such a minority sport.

dioufy do u have any belts apart from primarks ones

derry wrote:

Dioufy wrote:

boxingfarmer30 wrote: I've had the same arguement over and over again about belts and titles but derry was WBU champ and beat a good Ste Foster during his WBU days,you tell micky ward he wasn't a world champ when he won his WORLD title from Shea Neary.So Derry was a world champ in tha majority of peoples eyes.If not yours diofy

I didn't say Ward was a world champion because he beat Neary. I don't rank the WBU anyhow, otherwise I might as well rank shit like the IBA, IBC. If they can call Mathews a world chmpion, or at least insinuate it, then no wonder boxing is such a minority sport.

dioufy do u have any belts apart from primarks ones

haha well said derry

Derry, mate. You have the wrong end of the stick, and a problem in making funny jokes. I said it was wrong to call you a world champion - winning the WBU belt is an achievement, but answer this, do you call yourself a former world champion? Because I don't, and I'd guess more that 99% of this forum concur.

Jeez.

Dioufy wrote:Derry, mate. You have the wrong end of the stick, and a problem in making funny jokes. I said it was wrong to call you a world champion - winning the WBU belt is an achievement, but answer this, do you call yourself a former world champion? Because I don't, and I'd guess more that 99% of this forum concur.

Jeez.

I agree,the wbu title whilst still an accomplisment is not a legit world title because if it was going to be treated that way then you might aswell just create another batch of these titles and fighter in the division can be a world champion!