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If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:12
by keithmoonhangover
Let's just say that he fights Wlad in July and has a tune up, who should he fight?
It's only a tune up, so let's assume he wants a low risk fight, so put Povetkin, Chambers and Chageev to one side for now.
If you were his promoter, who would you match him with?
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:15
by Dioufy
Roy Jones jr? Nah, if Haye fights Wlad in July then I would say to Haye, don't fight anybody. If would have to be low-risk, and after Haye's last opponent, two pushovers on the bounce wouldn't sell. Sky would not sanction that, I don't think. Haye needs to keep himself in shape because July isn't overly far away.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:22
by Spud
David Haye on no account should take a tune up fight for any proposed fight with "The Klits" - too much money involved - the money being talked about is obscene - why take any risks.
I dont think David would get beat in a tune up - but he risks injury and any sort would scupper his chances of a mega fight.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:23
by orbtastic
Just out of interest, if the WBA title was on the line, Jones would have to weigh over 200lbs, right?
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:26
by Spud
orbtastic wrote:Just out of interest, if the WBA title was on the line, Jones would have to weigh over 200lbs, right?
The promoters could apply to the governing body for dispensation to fight at another weight if all parties agree. I believe Heavyweight is the only category where there is such flexibility.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:32
by keithmoonhangover
orbtastic wrote:Just out of interest, if the WBA title was on the line, Jones would have to weigh over 200lbs, right?
I'm pretty certain, there is no rule stating a minimum weight for a fight at any weight. Jones weighed less last time he fought at heavyweight.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:34
by orbtastic
keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:Just out of interest, if the WBA title was on the line, Jones would have to weigh over 200lbs, right?
I'm pretty certain, there is no rule stating a minimum weight for a fight at any weight. Jones weighed less last time he fought at heavyweight.
He weighed less because the limit for cruiserweight was 190lbs, not 200lbs. He was 193lbs.
My understanding is that in heavyweight contests, you have to weigh in at above the cruiserweight limit but am having problems finding confirmation of it.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:40
by keithmoonhangover
orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:Just out of interest, if the WBA title was on the line, Jones would have to weigh over 200lbs, right?
I'm pretty certain, there is no rule stating a minimum weight for a fight at any weight. Jones weighed less last time he fought at heavyweight.
He weighed less because the limit for cruiserweight was 190lbs, not 200lbs. He was 193lbs.
My understanding is that in heavyweight contests, you have to weigh in at above the cruiserweight limit but am having problems finding confirmation of it.
I'm 99% certain that there is no minimum weight limit. Unless there has been a recent rule change.
Leonard - Lalonde would back up my theory.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:44
by Datsue
Couldn't RJJ just weigh in fully clothed & with shoes on, like some heavies used to (& I wish more did, to save my eyes)?
EDIT: I cannot believe I am thinking of ways to get Jones in the ring with Haye. I feel sick.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:45
by orbtastic
keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
I'm pretty certain, there is no rule stating a minimum weight for a fight at any weight. Jones weighed less last time he fought at heavyweight.
He weighed less because the limit for cruiserweight was 190lbs, not 200lbs. He was 193lbs.
My understanding is that in heavyweight contests, you have to weigh in at above the cruiserweight limit but am having problems finding confirmation of it.
I'm 99% certain that there is no minimum weight limit. Unless there has been a recent rule change.
Leonard - Lalonde would back up my theory.
Leonard Lalonde wasn't at heavyweight. At least read my posts before trying to correct me.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:46
by keithmoonhangover
orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:
He weighed less because the limit for cruiserweight was 190lbs, not 200lbs. He was 193lbs.
My understanding is that in heavyweight contests, you have to weigh in at above the cruiserweight limit but am having problems finding confirmation of it.
I'm 99% certain that there is no minimum weight limit. Unless there has been a recent rule change.
Leonard - Lalonde would back up my theory.
Leonard Lalonde wasn't at heavyweight. At least read my posts before trying to correct me.
I know it wasn't at heavy. What I am trying to say is that there is no weight minimum.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:48
by orbtastic
Datsue wrote:Couldn't RJJ just weigh in fully clothed & with shoes on, like some heavies used to (& I wish more did, to save my eyes)?
EDIT: I cannot believe I am thinking of ways to get Jones in the ring with Haye. I feel sick.
Jones did actually weigh-in with trainers and sweat suit on.
Like when SRL weighed in for LaLonde he wore a tracksuit and had weights in his pockets, he said his true weight was just under 160lbs that day.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:49
by keithmoonhangover
Datsue wrote:Couldn't RJJ just weigh in fully clothed & with shoes on, like some heavies used to (& I wish more did, to save my eyes)?
EDIT: I cannot believe I am thinking of ways to get Jones in the ring with Haye. I feel sick.
I agree mate. Terrible match up.
Also, people have weighed in with leg weights under their tracksuit bottoms.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:49
by orbtastic
keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
I'm 99% certain that there is no minimum weight limit. Unless there has been a recent rule change.
Leonard - Lalonde would back up my theory.
Leonard Lalonde wasn't at heavyweight. At least read my posts before trying to correct me.
I know it wasn't at heavy. What I am trying to say is that there is no weight minimum.
By giving an example that's completely pointless. Yeah I can see your point.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 09:51
by keithmoonhangover
orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:
Leonard Lalonde wasn't at heavyweight. At least read my posts before trying to correct me.
I know it wasn't at heavy. What I am trying to say is that there is no weight minimum.
By giving an example that's completely pointless. Yeah I can see your point.
What's your problem? You mentioned Leonard - Lalonde yourself in your last post! Numpty.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 10:05
by orbtastic
keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
I know it wasn't at heavy. What I am trying to say is that there is no weight minimum.
By giving an example that's completely pointless. Yeah I can see your point.
What's your problem? You mentioned Leonard - Lalonde yourself in your last post! Numpty.
Jesus, are you that thick?
I used that fight as a well documented example of someone using weights in their pockets to increase their weight.
You used that fight as an example because you either misunderstood, misread or just ignored the salient point I made, which is in heavyweight fights, there is a minimum weight requirement.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 10:08
by keithmoonhangover
orbtastic wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:orbtastic wrote:
By giving an example that's completely pointless. Yeah I can see your point.
What's your problem? You mentioned Leonard - Lalonde yourself in your last post! Numpty.
Jesus, are you that thick?
I used that fight as a well documented example of someone using weights in their pockets to increase their weight.
You used that fight as an example because you either misunderstood, misread or just ignored the salient point I made, which is in heavyweight fights, there is a minimum weight requirement.
I already answered your point, you just think you're right and have no evidence.
Just show me proof that there is a minimum weight for a heavy and I'll give you a public apology.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 10:55
by hurlock
michael grant, shannon briggs,etc.
or haye could opt for danny green,james toney.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:20
by Rocky Balboa
Don't dare mention James Toney! He weighed 257lbs for his last outing. Toney's next opponent should be a Dietician!
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:22
by keithmoonhangover
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:26
by hurlock
dont be suprised
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Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:31
by keithmoonhangover
I'd prefer Rahman to Toney.
Re: If Haye has a tune up for Wlad
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:44
by hurlock
keithmoonhangover wrote:I'd prefer Rahman to Toney.
for what reason's??
i still think it's a lottery for haye at heavy even tho these guy's have been about & past there best,they are still a danger to haye imo.