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Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:35
by ApolloCreed
I'll start the ball rolling with Peter McDonagh (16-19). I can't believe he has lost 19 times.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:42
by DavidPayne
Bradley Pryce.

Fed to the wolves at times by FW, fought regularly above his optimum weight and had classic dust-ups with several good fighters.

I think with more care and obviously more dedication from Pryce he could have been European Champion.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:43
by DougieC30
Lee noble has also been beat 17times. won 12 lost 17

Dougie Curran 5-5. Will defo win more than he losses.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:44
by Jeff Thomas
There's loads. Billy Smith is probably the best example. Emanual Augustus? Depends how impressed by records you are.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:45
by Chris W 1982
Glen Johnson and Chris Edwards are the two that spring to mind immediately.

I also think the loss column on Bernard Hopkins' ledger is misleading also. 1993 was the last time he was beaten decisively

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:59
by ApolloCreed
Great call on Pryce.
It was the comment on the Groves-DeGale thread that got me thinking, I was talking about fellas who were over-matched or cashed out maybe when they could have taken softer fights and padded the record.
To hear a guy like McDonagh is 16-19 makes him sound like a complete mug, but he's far from that.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:06
by Jeff Thomas
RE Hopkins:

That Jones loss was pretty decisive- :TU:

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:17
by Chris W 1982
Jeff Thomas wrote:RE Hopkins:

That Jones loss was pretty decisive- :TU:
I agree pal. Most definitely.

The fact that I scored for Hopkins in both Taylor fights, the Calzaghe fight and the recent Pascal fight was my reason for the mention.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:18
by jonp
Andrew Patterson and D mitchell are two i know personally.
Bioth much better than records show

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:25
by Jeff Thomas
jonp wrote:Andrew Patterson and D mitchell are two i know personally.
Bioth much better than records show

:TU:

Patterson looks a right handful

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:26
by Jeff Thomas
Chris W 1982 wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:RE Hopkins:

That Jones loss was pretty decisive- :TU:
I agree pal. Most definitely.

The fact that I scored for Hopkins in both Taylor fights, the Calzaghe fight and the recent Pascal fight was my reason for the mention.
Shit pal, my bad I thought you were talking about his debut. Must be the punchiness :TU:

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:28
by deadpan
Emanuel Augustus 38-34-6.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:43
by Chambers2
deadpan wrote:Emanuel Augustus 38-34-6.
He was the one that immediately sprung to mine.

Who was that Mcafferty bloke from Kettering who fought a load of our top HWs?? Don't remember him winning (m)any matches, but always put on a good perfoemance and rarely got stopped.





Just looked him up Derek McCafferty 2(1)-17(5)-1

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:44
by DavidPayne
Derek McAfferty - was Audley's 2nd opponent from memory

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:46
by Chambers2
DavidPayne wrote:Derek McAfferty - was Audley's 2nd opponent from memory
On the ball as always David

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:47
by DavidPayne
If we're going down that route. I always liked Luke Simpkin, bearded-baby face who learnt on the job.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:10
by bennie
Carlos Palomino, prior to the Stracey challenge. Nobody could forsee how good a fighter he was, least of all the Cartel. I watched Palomino's fight with Mando Muniz on youtube the other day. He throws the kind of shots you don't see today.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:14
by sugar sweet 1
DavidPayne wrote:Bradley Pryce.

Fed to the wolves at times by FW, fought regularly above his optimum weight and had classic dust-ups with several good fighters.

I think with more care and obviously more dedication from Pryce he could have been European Champion.

could have???????im not finished yet,lol.going back to light-middle to make a impact

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:20
by DavidPayne
sugar sweet 1 wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Bradley Pryce.

Fed to the wolves at times by FW, fought regularly above his optimum weight and had classic dust-ups with several good fighters.

I think with more care and obviously more dedication from Pryce he could have been European Champion.

could have???????im not finished yet,lol.going back to light-middle to make a impact
Hey Brad. You could still do it. I'd back you over Matthew Hatton at Welter all day long.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:28
by fearce
ian nappa his better then his record sugests hes been robed alot

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:45
by sugar sweet 1
DavidPayne wrote:
sugar sweet 1 wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:Bradley Pryce.

Fed to the wolves at times by FW, fought regularly above his optimum weight and had classic dust-ups with several good fighters.

I think with more care and obviously more dedication from Pryce he could have been European Champion.

could have???????im not finished yet,lol.going back to light-middle to make a impact
Hey Brad. You could still do it. I'd back you over Matthew Hatton at Welter all day long.

im gonna hold out for a 12 rounder at welter or light-middle so could be out of ring few months,6-8 rounders are no good for me takes me 6 to warm up.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 13:03
by Gazmac81
John simpson too

fearce wrote:ian nappa his better then his record sugests hes been robed alot

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 13:09
by johnswan1
Ovill McKenzie

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 14:26
by Old bones Ian
Kelvin Seabrooks was 21-13 when he won the IBF bantamweight title, he went on to make 3 defenses of it.

Re: Fighters who are much better than their record suggests

Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 14:31
by alexpaterson
Glenn Johnson