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Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 09:04
by IronLiver
That what his manager said he would be.

Where did it all go wrong haha!

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 10:35
by johnnygreaves
Boxed on a couple of shows with Ellis. When he boxed enzo MAC . He looked like he wad going to die of fright . The one after he hit the deck without being hit . Bless him!

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 10:43
by IronLiver
johnnygreaves wrote:Boxed on a couple of shows with Ellis. When he boxed enzo MAC . He looked like he wad going to die of fright . The one after he hit the deck without being hit . Bless him!


Yeah remember that one

He did have skills won an ABA title I think but he's got about as much heart as this keyboard in typing with.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 10:49
by Jeff Thomas
Super talented. He could have been superb.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 11:00
by IronLiver
Jeff Thomas wrote:Super talented. He could have been superb.

At serving coffee??

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 12:10
by wrimc
I heard he was a very talented fighter in the amateurs and tipped for big things but he obviously has some sort of Audley harrison syndrome unfortunately

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 12:12
by Bleak
When Askin beat him Askin was saying how Ellis was his hero growing up round the Blackpool are or words to that effect, I assume Ellis had some staus in Blackpool in his early fight career

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 12:23
by Tommy Gunn13
wrimc wrote:I heard he was a very talented fighter in the amateurs and tipped for big things but he obviously has some sort of Audley harrison syndrome unfortunately
He was a good Amateur,just seemed to have lost his bottle as a pro...

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 12:35
by orbtastic
I remember him coming through in the pros, never seemed particularly "big" or a huge puncher then got bust up by that Yuri Yelistratov or whatever his name was, around the same time a few other British boxers got their bubbles burst by imports (I'm thinking Catley & Matthews etc) that they were expected to beat easily, and the wheels came off.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 13:01
by wrimc
there is a big white collar circuit in blackpool i dont know if he is plying his trade there now could probably earn a few bob doing that

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 15:44
by hurlock
mercman wrote:Ellis was a really good amateur and showed promise in his early professional fights too - he was fast, mobile and could punch. In my view he was never really big enough to make it as a top class heavyweight though. Although he was bulked up to about 230lbs at one stage, he would probably have been better at cruiserweight. Either way, Ellis' recent performances have been very poor indeed. Clearly, he lost his way at some point. Not heard anything about him for a while. Has he packed it in now?
where did his punch go????

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 16:12
by tear up
IronLiver wrote:That what his manager said he would be.

Where did it all go wrong haha!
bit nasty that :box:

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 17:57
by Dioufy
Against Fury, he threw ZERO punches. He made Audley look like Katsidis in that fight.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 00:15
by el_grande_mauro_mina
IronLiver wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:Super talented. He could have been superb.

At serving coffee??
Now you are being nasty, he was a ABA champion and fought for his country against the yanks - have you done anything similar? He was a good fighter who today would have made a decent 200lbs cruiserweight but when he was fighting and in his prime he would have had a job making 190lbs so he bulked up a little and fought at heavyweight with some success, he was pencilled in to fight Danny Williams for the British and Commonwealth heavyweight titles and I remember at the time thinking if he could land with his big left he could have won that fight - he wasn't so useless thats for sure. And if you want to have a go at someone - his name is John Hyland - I don't think Matthew Ellis appreciated the ballyhoo at the time either and I don't know why he should be saddled with it. :TU:

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 03:44
by forcefraser
Against Fury I recall he actually put his head in the way of the punches on purpose (or so it seemed) looking for the excuse to end it.

It takes real balls to get in the ring as a pro, so can`t knock him there, but he was certainly a long way from what was predicted of him.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 16:30
by reggaereggae
Apparently Ellis chased the birds rather a lot.........

Out of interest, is Tiger Woods actually the first billionaire sportsman or not?

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 16:34
by Old bones Ian
reggaereggae wrote:Apparently Ellis chased the birds rather a lot.........

Out of interest, is Tiger Woods actually the first billionaire sportsman or not?
I would say its got to be either Woods or Schumacher.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 16:37
by reggaereggae
Old bones Ian wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:Apparently Ellis chased the birds rather a lot.........

Out of interest, is Tiger Woods actually the first billionaire sportsman or not?
I would say its got to be either Woods or Schumacher.
But have they actually reached over a billion? (and in Dollars or Pounds)

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 16:41
by Coco
I'm sure Woods reached over a billion dollars, however with his divorce settlement pending .......

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 17:09
by Bomber 1
Nice guy was Matt, I had good chat with him after boxing him and he was a top fella, told me he chased the women played the game and just burnt the candle at both ends, he has a few kids one down here an one somewhere else, he liked Liverpool but there is just so many distractions in this great great city.. This is why such a tiny town produces great amateurs in the dozens but not as many pro's but I feel that's changing a little now.. I think had Ellis had got down to the 13st 8 limit in the old days he could have definitely won domestic titles at least IMO...

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 17:11
by Bomber 1
P.s woods has not reached a billion yet, also he won't for few years after his divorce settlement.. :(

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 17:37
by bigped
that including endorsments bomber? or just prize money?

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 17:55
by Old bones Ian
Well Schumacher was on £53 million a year in wages, add on his sponsorship etc on top, he's got to be in the high hundreds of millions.

As of now Tiger Woods has won $113,602,123 in prize money for tournements. so thats from 1996 to 2010. Not as much as i would of guessed. the rest of his huge earnings are from sponsorship deals.

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 18:31
by Bomber 1
He got 600 million off Nike for a decade too, I think his earnings ate close but when the tax man hits him mate it's something else, this guy is probably gonna be the first billion dollar sportsman.. That's if his wife didn't take too much.. :( women lol ;)

Re: Matthew Ellis the first billion dollar sportsman

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 18:39
by Old bones Ian
Bomber 1 wrote:He got 600 million off Nike for a decade too, I think his earnings ate close but when the tax man hits him mate it's something else, this guy is probably gonna be the first billion dollar sportsman.. That's if his wife didn't take too much.. :( women lol ;)
Yeah Nike made him. They didn't produce golfing equipment when Woods was amateur but when he went pro they saw it as the oppurtunity to get in on the Golfing game