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Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 06:02
by Captain Hook
Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 06:03
by Chambers2
Captain Hook wrote:Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Watched the first episode (so far). Tysons Great!! I'd tune in to watch him take a sh!t
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 06:36
by DIRT SUGAR
Chambers2 wrote:Captain Hook wrote:Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Watched the first episode (so far). Tysons Great!! I'd tune in to watch him take a sh!t
Funnily enough....
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Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 07:28
by Craig14
Chambers2 wrote:Captain Hook wrote:Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Watched the first episode (so far). Tysons Great!! I'd tune in to watch him take a sh!t
Would you tune in to watch him rape a bird?
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 07:33
by Chambers2
yid14 wrote:Chambers2 wrote:Captain Hook wrote:Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Watched the first episode (so far). Tysons Great!! I'd tune in to watch him take a sh!t
Would you tune in to watch him rape a bird?
Pigeon or Human? Pigeon yes, human NO
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 07:37
by Craig14
Tyson was great when he first came along, made me fall inlove with boxing but a shit human being. pidgeons or not.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 08:19
by Captain Hook
Was that pidgeon English?
:)
Love him or hate him the programme is on Discovery, and it seems pretty well put together.
It's a year today I sat down with him in North Wales and talked, and I still get goose bumps. Most intense 15 minutes of my life.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 08:47
by Syntax Error
I watched it & thought it was good.
Being in Britain, I don't get to see or hear much about Tyson these days, but he seems to be very similar to when he was ruling the HW division in the late 80s & doesn't appear to be affected by boxing.
His love of pigeons is a real eye opener (although I've always known this was the case).
I never realised that pigeon racing was such a big thing amongst youngish men on the Eastern side of the USA.
I wonder how that culture developed over time?
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 08:56
by Chambers2
Captain Hook wrote:
It's a year today I sat down with him in North Wales and talked, and I still get goose bumps. Most intense 15 minutes of my life.
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Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 09:08
by Captain Hook
Syntax Error wrote:I watched it & thought it was good.
Being in Britain, I don't get to see or hear much about Tyson these days, but he seems to be very similar to when he was ruling the HW division in the late 80s & doesn't appear to be affected by boxing.
His love of pigeons is a real eye opener (although I've always known this was the case).
I never realised that pigeon racing was such a big thing amongst youngish men on the Eastern side of the USA.
I wonder how that culture developed over time?
Doesn't appear to have been affected by boxing?
Mate, he is well and truly f*****.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 09:18
by Captain Hook
PS By that I mean.....
Slurring his words, serious nervous tension, little or no money, bitterness about the sport, treated like a freak, forced to tour Britain and Europe to make money, legacy tainted by losses to Williams and McBride, legacy tainted by 101 issues and incidents out of the ring during and after his career.....
The list is endless.
Difficult to pity a man who's done the things he has and thrown it all away (tens of millions), but there are moments when you do feel a little sorry for the guy, which is astonishing when you consider how he used to strike such fear into the hearts of his opponents, the media etc.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 11:01
by hitman_hatton1
good to see him turn things around and get on without boxing.
looks in great shape at the minute.
lost respect for him midway thru his pro career.
just became a dirty joke and embarrassed the sport time and again.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 11:03
by hitman_hatton1
Captain Hook wrote:PS By that I mean.....
Slurring his words, serious nervous tension, little or no money, bitterness about the sport, treated like a freak, forced to tour Britain and Europe to make money, legacy tainted by losses to Williams and McBride, legacy tainted by 101 issues and incidents out of the ring during and after his career.....
The list is endless.
Difficult to pity a man who's done the things he has and thrown it all away (tens of millions), but there are moments when you do feel a little sorry for the guy, which is astonishing when you consider how he used to strike such fear into the hearts of his opponents, the media etc.
but he's kept his nose clean in recent years.
back in shape after that bloated period.
trying to get his life together after boxing.
if he's earning money with speaking tours and this new programme then good luck to him.

Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 11:06
by Chambers2
hitman_hatton1 wrote:good to see him turn things around and get on without boxing.
looks in great shape at the minute.
lost respect for him midway thru his pro career.
just became a dirty joke and embarrassed the sport time and again.
how's it hanging Hitman? Long time no see, how's the World treating ya??
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 11:09
by hitman_hatton1
Chambers2 wrote:hitman_hatton1 wrote:good to see him turn things around and get on without boxing.
looks in great shape at the minute.
lost respect for him midway thru his pro career.
just became a dirty joke and embarrassed the sport time and again.
how's it hanging Hitman? Long time no see, how's the World treating ya??

Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 11:17
by Andypittcov
'Old too fast Smart too late'
That's something I remember mike saying in some interview,certainly true for him.
I watched the pigeon programme,found it boring simply because I don't like pigeons I guess.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 17:00
by Syntax Error
Captain Hook wrote:PS By that I mean.....
Slurring his words, serious nervous tension, little or no money, bitterness about the sport, treated like a freak, forced to tour Britain and Europe to make money, legacy tainted by losses to Williams and McBride, legacy tainted by 101 issues and incidents out of the ring during and after his career.....
The list is endless.
Difficult to pity a man who's done the things he has and thrown it all away (tens of millions), but there are moments when you do feel a little sorry for the guy, which is astonishing when you consider how he used to strike such fear into the hearts of his opponents, the media etc.
I thought his speech sounded the same as it always had done.
I don't get to see much of Tyson these days, so I'll have to rewatch some old footage to compare, to make sure my brain isn't playing tricks on me. :P
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 18:38
by Dan Dares
Everybody is the way they are for a reason. I think the fact he openly acknowledges what a shit human being he was at every opportunity shows humility. Throughout his boxing career, and from a young age, he was used as a meal ticket by many, and was constantly arse licked by everybody around him, telling him he could do no wrong. This is bound to cause psychological damage somewhere along the line.
Did he inherit his love for pigeons from Cus D'aMato?
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 05:04
by Andypittcov
Dan Dares wrote:Everybody is the way they are for a reason. I think the fact he openly acknowledges what a shit human being he was at every opportunity shows humility. Throughout his boxing career, and from a young age, he was used as a meal ticket by many, and was constantly arse licked by everybody around him, telling him he could do no wrong. This is bound to cause psychological damage somewhere along the line.
Did he inherit his love for pigeons from Cus D'aMato?
No he kept pigeons from a very young age,when he was 10 a gang member ripped the head of one of his pigeons prompting Tyson to have his first streetfight,Cus came along much later when Tyson was already a pro boxer.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 09:44
by Matt W
Captain Hook wrote:PS By that I mean.....
Slurring his words, serious nervous tension, little or no money, bitterness about the sport, treated like a freak, forced to tour Britain and Europe to make money, legacy tainted by losses to Williams and McBride, legacy tainted by 101 issues and incidents out of the ring during and after his career.....
The list is endless.
Difficult to pity a man who's done the things he has and thrown it all away (tens of millions), but there are moments when you do feel a little sorry for the guy, which is astonishing when you consider how he used to strike such fear into the hearts of his opponents, the media etc.
Agree with every word of that mate.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 09:45
by Matt W
Andypittcov wrote:Dan Dares wrote:Everybody is the way they are for a reason. I think the fact he openly acknowledges what a shit human being he was at every opportunity shows humility. Throughout his boxing career, and from a young age, he was used as a meal ticket by many, and was constantly arse licked by everybody around him, telling him he could do no wrong. This is bound to cause psychological damage somewhere along the line.
Did he inherit his love for pigeons from Cus D'aMato?
No he kept pigeons from a very young age,when he was 10 a gang member ripped the head of one of his pigeons prompting Tyson to have his first streetfight,Cus came along much later when Tyson was already a pro boxer.
Shows a crippling lack of self-esteem for me.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 10:43
by Andypittcov
Matt W wrote:Andypittcov wrote:Dan Dares wrote:Everybody is the way they are for a reason. I think the fact he openly acknowledges what a shit human being he was at every opportunity shows humility. Throughout his boxing career, and from a young age, he was used as a meal ticket by many, and was constantly arse licked by everybody around him, telling him he could do no wrong. This is bound to cause psychological damage somewhere along the line.
Did he inherit his love for pigeons from Cus D'aMato?
No he kept pigeons from a very young age,when he was 10 a gang member ripped the head of one of his pigeons prompting Tyson to have his first streetfight,Cus came along much later when Tyson was already a pro boxer.
Shows a crippling lack of self-esteem for me.
Not for me. Tyson has been on a personal journey for some time to become a better person and the first step on that journey for anyone is to be honest with yourself,I admire him for refusing to sugar coat anything and accepting responsibility for his actions.He may not have done that in the past but I think he is now.
Someone with a crippling lack of self-esteem isn't likely to even step foot out of their house,it takes confidence to admit where you've gone wrong and be as open as he has.
And let's not forget it must be 1000 times harder for him to change than your average joe.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 10:57
by reggaereggae
Chambers2 wrote:Captain Hook wrote:Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but has anyone seen this show on the Discovery Channel?
Tyson and his love of pigeons, and a contest to race them etc. It's a new series, or at least it seems to be. I caught the first 10 minutes of it, got the first two to watch.
Watched the first episode (so far). Tysons Great!! I'd tune in to watch him take a sh!t
Mike would sell out MSG masturbating apparently!
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 11:21
by Matt W
Andypittcov wrote:Matt W wrote:Andypittcov wrote:
No he kept pigeons from a very young age,when he was 10 a gang member ripped the head of one of his pigeons prompting Tyson to have his first streetfight,Cus came along much later when Tyson was already a pro boxer.
Shows a crippling lack of self-esteem for me.
Not for me. Tyson has been on a personal journey for some time to become a better person and the first step on that journey for anyone is to be honest with yourself,I admire him for refusing to sugar coat anything and accepting responsibility for his actions.He may not have done that in the past but I think he is now.
Someone with a crippling lack of self-esteem isn't likely to even step foot out of their house,it takes confidence to admit where you've gone wrong and be as open as he has.
Why would that be? Tyson has had more opportunities than most and has apologists for everything he does wrong.
And let's not forget it must be 1000 times harder for him to change than your average joe.
Why would that be? Tyon has had far more opportunities than most and has apologists for everything he does wrong.
Re: Taking on Tyson
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 11:25
by Matt W
I'm not trying to be judgmental here, just saying that interviews I've seen / heard with Mike, including more recent ones, don't suggest him to be somebody that is happy with who he is to me. I do hope that he can be.