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Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 09:01
by Autobarn
Zaragoza's fights with Banke (trilogy) and McCullough understandably get most of the attention among his very tough, road warrior's body of work. And of course the stoppage by Morales, probably on the biggest stage in the west that Zaragoza has been on.
However, being the road warrior that he was, Zaragoza took on many Asian fighters, in countries such as Japan and South Korea.
Zaragoza said his 1991 fight with Kiyoshi Hatakana was considered "fight of the decade" by some ppl in Japan, and prior to the McCullough bout, he considered the split decision one of his 2 best wins.
Zaragoza also twice beat "The Japanese Gatti", Joichiro Tatsuyoshi, away from home in two bouts - winning apparently one sided bouts vs the 2x WBC bantam title holder.
Another interesting result is his draw with Seung Hoon Lee in 1988. Lee had won the IBF version in a 15-rounder, but apparently had to vacate. Anyone seen this bout?
And Zaragoza won a split decision over Korea's Chan Young Park, a fighter who was supposed to have had a gruelling defeat to Wilfredo Vazquez.
(as a detour, it's interesting Paul Banke's hardest fight came not vs Zaragoza, but vs a Korean Ki-Jun Lee, in Korea. This fight is on Youtube. In an early '90s issue of Boxing News Banke said something like the Zaragoza fights were picnics compared to the one with Lee).
Seems that there is some real uncharted territory regarding Daniel Zaragoza. Anyone have info, opinions?
Re: Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 08:42
by bennie
Autobarn wrote:Zaragoza's fights with Banke (trilogy) and McCullough understandably get most of the attention among his very tough, road warrior's body of work. And of course the stoppage by Morales, probably on the biggest stage in the west that Zaragoza has been on.
However, being the road warrior that he was, Zaragoza took on many Asian fighters, in countries such as Japan and South Korea.
Zaragoza said his 1991 fight with Kiyoshi Hatakana was considered "fight of the decade" by some ppl in Japan, and prior to the McCullough bout, he considered the split decision one of his 2 best wins.
Zaragoza also twice beat "The Japanese Gatti", Joichiro Tatsuyoshi, away from home in two bouts - winning apparently one sided bouts vs the 2x WBC bantam title holder.
Another interesting result is his draw with Seung Hoon Lee in 1988. Lee had won the IBF version in a 15-rounder, but apparently had to vacate. Anyone seen this bout?
And Zaragoza won a split decision over Korea's Chan Young Park, a fighter who was supposed to have had a gruelling defeat to Wilfredo Vazquez.
(as a detour, it's interesting Paul Banke's hardest fight came not vs Zaragoza, but vs a Korean Ki-Jun Lee, in Korea. This fight is on Youtube. In an early '90s issue of Boxing News Banke said something like the Zaragoza fights were picnics compared to the one with Lee).
Seems that there is some real uncharted territory regarding Daniel Zaragoza. Anyone have info, opinions?
Zaragoza just got better and better with age. He really did slip the net.
Re: Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 21 Mar 2011, 11:10
by Datsue
I've got the Hatanaka & one of the Tatsuyoshi fights on me PC at home. Both hard as fvck, really gruelling.
Re: Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 10:46
by Autobarn
Datsue wrote:I've got the Hatanaka & one of the Tatsuyoshi fights on me PC at home. Both hard as fvck, really gruelling.
thanks for info.
i was looking at an old BM issue and zaragoza said how it (hatanaka) was his most important fight (at the time, pre mccullough) along with the rematch with the slippery hector acero sanchez.
interesting, DZ also said he wanted to be a WBC judge, and not a trainer, when he retired! ended up training rafael marquez.
have you got the first zaragoza-tatsuyoshi fight, the late stoppage; or the rematch, where zaragoza wins on PTS?
so, was the hatanaka fight a close one? does DZ get hurt? there are some really hard persistant bastards in japan (i mean that in the best way), even if they're not the most polished.
Re: Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 10:51
by Autobarn
bennie wrote:Autobarn wrote:Zaragoza's fights with Banke (trilogy) and McCullough understandably get most of the attention among his very tough, road warrior's body of work. And of course the stoppage by Morales, probably on the biggest stage in the west that Zaragoza has been on.
However, being the road warrior that he was, Zaragoza took on many Asian fighters, in countries such as Japan and South Korea.
Zaragoza said his 1991 fight with Kiyoshi Hatakana was considered "fight of the decade" by some ppl in Japan, and prior to the McCullough bout, he considered the split decision one of his 2 best wins.
Zaragoza also twice beat "The Japanese Gatti", Joichiro Tatsuyoshi, away from home in two bouts - winning apparently one sided bouts vs the 2x WBC bantam title holder.
Another interesting result is his draw with Seung Hoon Lee in 1988. Lee had won the IBF version in a 15-rounder, but apparently had to vacate. Anyone seen this bout?
And Zaragoza won a split decision over Korea's Chan Young Park, a fighter who was supposed to have had a gruelling defeat to Wilfredo Vazquez.
(as a detour, it's interesting Paul Banke's hardest fight came not vs Zaragoza, but vs a Korean Ki-Jun Lee, in Korea. This fight is on Youtube. In an early '90s issue of Boxing News Banke said something like the Zaragoza fights were picnics compared to the one with Lee).
Seems that there is some real uncharted territory regarding Daniel Zaragoza. Anyone have info, opinions?
Zaragoza just got better and better with age. He really did slip the net.
i can see why ppl prefer to chat about the banke, etc fights. the so-cal fight scene is a hard school. but zaragoza truly was a "world" champion with many good results on the eastern and western scenes.
Re: Damiel Zaragoza in Asia
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 08:54
by Autobarn
re the first zaragoza-tatsuyoshi bout:
joe koizumi said zaragoza easily won, for ring mag.
boxing monthly, though, in their news & roundup page, said it was a bloodbath (sadly not seen full report, which came in an issue i didn't get).
was it a sort of one-sided competitive bout, like perhaps angel manfredy-arturo gatti (tatsuyoshi being, of course, japan's equivalent to gatti)?