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Analysing the WBC's ridiculous rules (for the hell of it)

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:50
by chinny
Scandals and lawsuits involving the main sanctioning bodies have included an FBI indictment leading to a president of one being jailed, while a successful multi million dollar lawsuit brought another to its financial and oh so humble knees.

Rather than putting them out of business, these events seemed to make the organisations start following their own rules. What follows demonstrates how ridiculous even the published rules of the WBC are.
The italics are mine, the bold is direct from the WBC rule book.

there is no scope for buttering up the WBC officials here. No sir, none at all…:

Promoters‟ Obligations. The promoter(s) shall pay the expenses of the WBC Supervisor(s) to championship contests, not to exceed two (2) persons, including transportation, meals, hotels and other incidental expenses. Any attendance by the WBC President at any championship contest will be in an official capacity, and all of his expenses will be paid by the promoter(s).

Another section you just couldn’t make up:
The WBC reserves the right not to certify or to withdraw certification from any bout as being for a WBC recognized championship if, in the opinion of the Board of Governors, the bout jeopardizes the prestige and good standing of the WBC, or fair and uniform treatment of its own champions, or may cause confusion in the boxing community or the public.
Cause confusion? The WBC? No way!
and that, in the case of a non-mandatory:
the challenger is required to grant one (1) option for his first title defense, in the event that he is successful in his challenge

]Who on earth are the WBC to demand this? []]
Next, because so damn important that the non-scor
ing president has a good view:
The President of the WBC must be seated by the apron.
Then a half hearted and unconvincing stab at ‘fairness’:
The WBC Supervisor(s), particularly in mandatory bouts, should not be citizen(s) of the country where the contest is held, nor from the same country as either boxer, unless both boxers are from the same country where the contest is held.
Why ‘particularly in mandatory bouts’? Is it less important to administer with integrity if defending against, say, the third best fighter in the world?

Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense (against) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors

How former? How retired? From the ‘safety’ conscious WBC, isn’t this dangerous at best?
The No. 1 rated boxer in the WBC rankings is not necessarily the official mandatory challenger;
Come again?
Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout.

Let ‘s take a wild stab. Does this ‘great promotion’ swell the coffers of the WBC?
may grant special authorization to allow a WBC champion to engage in a non title 10 or 12 round bout. Sanction fees are applicable
What? No judges, no oversight, but you still want to steal a sanction fee? For what exactly?
Each promoter participating in a purse offer procedure shall pay a non refundable fee to the WBC as follows: Heavyweight division bid- $10,000 Cruiser to middleweight division bid- $7,500 Super welter to super bantamweight division bid - $5,000 Bantam to straweight division bid - $2,500. The fee must be received by the WBC before the submission of the bid.

So, apart from outright extortion, what is this? And given the WBC is non profit making, why is the fee (eg, presumably the cost) dependent on weight class?

Re: Analysing the WBC's ridiculous rules (for the hell of it)

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:12
by bigjack
chinny wrote:Scandals and lawsuits involving the main sanctioning bodies have included an FBI indictment leading to a president of one being jailed, while a successful multi million dollar lawsuit brought another to its financial and oh so humble knees.

Rather than putting them out of business, these events seemed to make the organisations start following their own rules. What follows demonstrates how ridiculous even the published rules of the WBC are.
The italics are mine, the bold is direct from the WBC rule book.

there is no scope for buttering up the WBC officials here. No sir, none at all…:

Promoters‟ Obligations. The promoter(s) shall pay the expenses of the WBC Supervisor(s) to championship contests, not to exceed two (2) persons, including transportation, meals, hotels and other incidental expenses. Any attendance by the WBC President at any championship contest will be in an official capacity, and all of his expenses will be paid by the promoter(s).

Another section you just couldn’t make up:
The WBC reserves the right not to certify or to withdraw certification from any bout as being for a WBC recognized championship if, in the opinion of the Board of Governors, the bout jeopardizes the prestige and good standing of the WBC, or fair and uniform treatment of its own champions, or may cause confusion in the boxing community or the public.
Cause confusion? The WBC? No way!
and that, in the case of a non-mandatory:
the challenger is required to grant one (1) option for his first title defense, in the event that he is successful in his challenge

]Who on earth are the WBC to demand this? []]
Next, because so damn important that the non-scor
ing president has a good view:
The President of the WBC must be seated by the apron.
Then a half hearted and unconvincing stab at ‘fairness’:
The WBC Supervisor(s), particularly in mandatory bouts, should not be citizen(s) of the country where the contest is held, nor from the same country as either boxer, unless both boxers are from the same country where the contest is held.
Why ‘particularly in mandatory bouts’? Is it less important to administer with integrity if defending against, say, the third best fighter in the world?

Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense (against) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors

How former? How retired? From the ‘safety’ conscious WBC, isn’t this dangerous at best?
The No. 1 rated boxer in the WBC rankings is not necessarily the official mandatory challenger;
Come again?
Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout.

Let ‘s take a wild stab. Does this ‘great promotion’ swell the coffers of the WBC?
may grant special authorization to allow a WBC champion to engage in a non title 10 or 12 round bout. Sanction fees are applicable
What? No judges, no oversight, but you still want to steal a sanction fee? For what exactly?
Each promoter participating in a purse offer procedure shall pay a non refundable fee to the WBC as follows: Heavyweight division bid- $10,000 Cruiser to middleweight division bid- $7,500 Super welter to super bantamweight division bid - $5,000 Bantam to straweight division bid - $2,500. The fee must be received by the WBC before the submission of the bid.

So, apart from outright extortion, what is this? And given the WBC is non profit making, why is the fee (eg, presumably the cost) dependent on weight class?

Many thanks for that,it all seems pretty clear now :witzend:

Re: Analysing the WBC's ridiculous rules (for the hell of it)

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:31
by wrimc
Its just a gravy train for a group of South American businessmen and they are still paying this off:

On March 21, 1998 Rocchigiani won the fight and a WBC belt; in the subsequent WBC rankings, he was listed as "Light-Heavyweight World Champion." Jones, however, had a change of heart and asked if the WBC would reinstate him as the champion. In a move that violated nearly a dozen of its own regulations, the WBC granted the reinstatement. Rocchigiani received a letter from the WBC advising that the publishing of his name as champion was a typographical error, and he had never really been the official titleholder.
Rocchigiani immediately filed a lawsuit against the WBC in a U.S. federal court, claiming that the organization's actions both were contrary to their own rules and injurious to his earning potential (due to diminished professional stature). On May 7, 2003, the judge ruled in Rocchigiani's favor, awarding him $30 million (U.S.) in damages and reinstating him as a former WBC Champion (Rocchigiani had lost a bout since his WBC Title match).
The following day, the WBC sought protection by filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy (i.e., corporate debt restructuring) in Puerto Rico. The organization then spent the next 13 months attempting to negotiate a six-figure settlement with Rocchigiani, but Rocchigiani did not at first accept.
On June 11, 2004, the WBC announced it would enter Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation (i.e., business closing and total asset sell-off) proceedings, effectively ending its existence. This action prompted some in the boxing community to plead with Rocchigiani to settle the dispute, which he did in mid-July 2004


As a result they started creating more and more belts to create more and more income so they could still live comfy existences whilst paying off this bloke

Re: Analysing the WBC's ridiculous rules (for the hell of it)

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:41
by freddydoesdallas
What a racket. So how does one go about creating a sanctioning body :OhYes: