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British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 07:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Rendall Munroe
7. (7.) Matthew Macklin
8. (8.) John Murray
9. (9.) Ryan Rhodes
10. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
11. (11.) Jason Booth
12. (12.) Matthew Hatton
13. (14.) Brian Magee (Irish)
14. (13.) Kell Brook
15. (15.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
16. (16.) John Simpson
17. (RE.) Ola Afolabi
18. (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
19. (17.) Kevin Mitchell
20. (18.) Darren Barker
21. (19.) Gavin Rees
22. (20.) Craig Watson
23. (21.) James DeGale
24. (22.) Danny McIntosh
25. (23.) Ashley Theophane
26. (24.) Anthony Crolla
27. (26.) Stuart Hall
28. (27.) Stephen Foster
29. (28.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
30. (30.) Dereck Chisora
Out - (25.) Willie Casey (Irish)
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 07:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 07:01
by stujones
Brian Magee went up for losing?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:18
by johnswan1
Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
1 David Haye
2 Carl Froch
3 Amir Khan
4 Ryan Rhodes
5 Dereck Chisora
6 Andy Lee
7 Ola Afolabi
8 Nathan Cleverly
9 Darren Barker
10 Matthew Macklin
11 Paul McCloskey
12 Kell Brook
13 Danny McIntosh
14 Ricky Burns
15 John Murray
16 Ashley Theophane
17 Craig Watson
18 Brian Magee
19 Sam Sexton
20 Tyson Fury
21 James DeGale
22 Matthew Hatton
23 Kevin Mitchell
24 Audley Harrison
25 Gavin Rees
26 Sam Webb
27 Tony Bellew
28 Rendall Munroe
29 Gary Buckland
30 John O'Donnell
31 Enzo Maccarinelli
32 Lenny Daws
33 Craig McEwan
34 Alex Arthur
35 Nigel Wright
36 Colin Lynes
37 Jason Booth
38 Prince Arron
39 Denton Vassell
40 Stuart Hall
41 Martin Rogan
42 Herbie Hide
43 Anthony Crolla
44 Bradley Pryce
45 Martin Murray
46 John McDermott
47 Jamie McDonnell
48 Scott Quigg
49 Jason Cook
50 Andy Murray
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 12:05
by alexpaterson
As per usual great list Horse!!
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 13:17
by Londonirish
johnswan1 wrote:Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
1 David Haye
2 Carl Froch
3 Amir Khan
4 Ryan Rhodes
5 Dereck Chisora
6 Andy Lee
7 Ola Afolabi
8 Nathan Cleverly
9 Darren Barker
10 Matthew Macklin
11 Paul McCloskey
12 Kell Brook
13 Danny McIntosh
14 Ricky Burns
15 John Murray
16 Ashley Theophane
17 Craig Watson
18 Brian Magee
19 Sam Sexton
20 Tyson Fury
21 James DeGale
22 Matthew Hatton
23 Kevin Mitchell
24 Audley Harrison
25 Gavin Rees
26 Sam Webb
27 Tony Bellew
28 Rendall Munroe
29 Gary Buckland
30 John O'Donnell
31 Enzo Maccarinelli
32 Lenny Daws
33 Craig McEwan
34 Alex Arthur
35 Nigel Wright
36 Colin Lynes
37 Jason Booth
38 Prince Arron
39 Denton Vassell
40 Stuart Hall
41 Martin Rogan
42 Herbie Hide
43 Anthony Crolla
44 Bradley Pryce
45 Martin Murray
46 John McDermott
47 Jamie McDonnell
48 Scott Quigg
49 Jason Cook
50 Andy Murray
How could they have Ashley Theophane 16

Look at the boxers he's a head of on the List....
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 17:46
by mickey1975
johnswan1 wrote:Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
1 David Haye
2 Carl Froch
3 Amir Khan
4 Ryan Rhodes
5 Dereck Chisora
6 Andy Lee
7 Ola Afolabi
8 Nathan Cleverly
9 Darren Barker
10 Matthew Macklin
11 Paul McCloskey
12 Kell Brook
13 Danny McIntosh
14 Ricky Burns
15 John Murray
16 Ashley Theophane
17 Craig Watson
18 Brian Magee
19 Sam Sexton
20 Tyson Fury
21 James DeGale
22 Matthew Hatton
23 Kevin Mitchell
24 Audley Harrison
25 Gavin Rees
26 Sam Webb
27 Tony Bellew
28 Rendall Munroe
29 Gary Buckland
30 John O'Donnell
31 Enzo Maccarinelli
32 Lenny Daws
33 Craig McEwan
34 Alex Arthur
35 Nigel Wright
36 Colin Lynes
37 Jason Booth
38 Prince Arron
39 Denton Vassell
40 Stuart Hall
41 Martin Rogan
42 Herbie Hide
43 Anthony Crolla
44 Bradley Pryce
45 Martin Murray
46 John McDermott
47 Jamie McDonnell
48 Scott Quigg
49 Jason Cook
50 Andy Murray
So $wifty AND John Simpson are not on the list?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 06:05
by Emmseegee
Horses list is good, the boxrec list is unbelievable. Lol
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 07:11
by ShadrachSimmo
mickey1975 wrote:johnswan1 wrote:Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
1 David Haye
2 Carl Froch
3 Amir Khan
4 Ryan Rhodes
5 Dereck Chisora
6 Andy Lee
7 Ola Afolabi
8 Nathan Cleverly
9 Darren Barker
10 Matthew Macklin
11 Paul McCloskey
12 Kell Brook
13 Danny McIntosh
14 Ricky Burns
15 John Murray
16 Ashley Theophane
17 Craig Watson
18 Brian Magee
19 Sam Sexton
20 Tyson Fury
21 James DeGale
22 Matthew Hatton
23 Kevin Mitchell
24 Audley Harrison
25 Gavin Rees
26 Sam Webb
27 Tony Bellew
28 Rendall Munroe
29 Gary Buckland
30 John O'Donnell
31 Enzo Maccarinelli
32 Lenny Daws
33 Craig McEwan
34 Alex Arthur
35 Nigel Wright
36 Colin Lynes
37 Jason Booth
38 Prince Arron
39 Denton Vassell
40 Stuart Hall
41 Martin Rogan
42 Herbie Hide
43 Anthony Crolla
44 Bradley Pryce
45 Martin Murray
46 John McDermott
47 Jamie McDonnell
48 Scott Quigg
49 Jason Cook
50 Andy Murray
So $wifty AND John Simpson are not on the list?
Was thinking that too Mick. Horses list is spot on!

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 09:19
by Horse
stujones wrote:Brian Magee went up for losing?
Yes. I thought winning a couple of rounds against Bute was enough to move him above Brook, who has not done very much recently.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 14:37
by Dioufy
Fan-fornicating-tastic, once again, my very weirdly dry friend.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 15:48
by Horse
johnswan1 wrote:Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
1 David Haye
2 Carl Froch
3 Amir Khan
4 Ryan Rhodes
5 Dereck Chisora
6 Andy Lee
7 Ola Afolabi
8 Nathan Cleverly
9 Darren Barker
10 Matthew Macklin
11 Paul McCloskey
12 Kell Brook
13 Danny McIntosh
14 Ricky Burns
15 John Murray
16 Ashley Theophane
17 Craig Watson
18 Brian Magee
19 Sam Sexton
20 Tyson Fury
21 James DeGale
22 Matthew Hatton
23 Kevin Mitchell
24 Audley Harrison
25 Gavin Rees
26 Sam Webb
27 Tony Bellew
28 Rendall Munroe
29 Gary Buckland
30 John O'Donnell
31 Enzo Maccarinelli
32 Lenny Daws
33 Craig McEwan
34 Alex Arthur
35 Nigel Wright
36 Colin Lynes
37 Jason Booth
38 Prince Arron
39 Denton Vassell
40 Stuart Hall
41 Martin Rogan
42 Herbie Hide
43 Anthony Crolla
44 Bradley Pryce
45 Martin Murray
46 John McDermott
47 Jamie McDonnell
48 Scott Quigg
49 Jason Cook
50 Andy Murray
Interesting. I think my rankings are much better.
I have highlighted the fighters that I think are significantly too high in red, and the fighters that are significantly too low in green.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 16:28
by stujones
I think Jason Cook being ranked 17 places behind a guy who he drew with is a bit harsh - yet it would appear you think there should be a bigger gap between them, horse?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 16:58
by Horse
alexpaterson wrote:As per usual great list Horse!!
Thank you, Alex.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 17:14
by alexpaterson
How can boxrec have McDonnell and Booth so low?
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 20:16
by Horse
Londonirish wrote:How could they have Ashley Theophane 16

Look at the boxers he's a head of on the List....
It is only a computer calculation. I don't think his placing is as bad as a lot of the other fighters.
It seems very kind to the heavyweight division: Haye 1st, Chisora at 5th, Sexton at 19th, Fury at 20th, Harrison at 24th, Rogan 41st & McDermott 46th.
5,000th post.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 06:48
by Horse
mickey1975 wrote:johnswan1 wrote:Here is the British & Irish Top 50 from Boxrec for comparison:
So $wifty AND John Simpson are not on the list?
That seems very odd.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:47
by Horse
Emmseegee wrote:Horses list is good, the boxrec list is unbelievable. Lol

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 18:00
by Horse
ShadrachSimmo wrote:mickey1975 wrote:So $wifty AND John Simpson are not on the list?
Was thinking that too Mick. Horses list is spot on!

Dioufy wrote:Fan-fornicating-tastic, once again, my very weirdly dry friend.

Thank you. There is a lot of positivity this month.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 11:18
by Horse
stujones wrote:I think Jason Cook being ranked 17 places behind a guy who he drew with is a bit harsh - yet it would appear you think there should be a bigger gap between them, horse?
That fight was over a year ago and Daws has done more than Cook since the fight, and he had done a lot more in the recent years before the fight.
I think Daws being in the top 50 P4P is reasonable, but Cook shouldn't be that high.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 11:26
by stujones
Daws is 1-1 since.... Cook hasn't lost since and beat a half decent fighter in Jones.
I aint saying Cook should be ahead of Daws, but there shouldn't be 17 places between them.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 12:05
by Horse
alexpaterson wrote:How can boxrec have McDonnell and Booth so low?
Rendall Munroe is only 28th and Stuart Hall is 40th as well.
The fighters from lower weight divisions don't seem to have as many points as the higher weight fighters.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:35
by Horse
stujones wrote:Daws is 1-1 since.... Cook hasn't lost since and beat a half decent fighter in Jones.
I aint saying Cook should be ahead of Daws, but there shouldn't be 17 places between them.
I don't consider Jones to be as good as Williams.
Cook's best win in the last 5 years is against Barrie Jones. He just hasn't done enough to earn a place that high up the rankings.
Daws has beaten much better opposition compared to Cook in the last few years. A draw between the two of them (that happened over a year ago) is not enough to make them need to be very close in the P4P rankings.
Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:43
by Asterix
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:00 pm
You actually waited until then to post it so it wouldn't be called a joke? You make me laugh.
You post it almost dead on midnight each month. It appears robotic.
It's a good list, though.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2011
Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:48
by Deno1986
Asterix wrote:Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:00 pm
You actually waited until then to post it so it wouldn't be called a joke? You make me laugh.
You post it almost dead on midnight each month. It appears robotic.
It's a good list, though.

This list is Horse's life, man.
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