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john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 17:26
by cakes
Watched him at the weekend an was a bit disappointed, a love to watch him at his best but just not too sure weather he can up his game to world level . He's in a top division and a lot of good domestic fights but can he really reach world honours ??????? Your thoughts guys ?????????
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 18:37
by Final round
I'd like to see him against Juan Diaz butsomeone like Acosta who Rios did would box the ears off John sadly
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 18:39
by taffytoon
He got caught far too often for my liking, would like to see him in with Mitchell.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 19:24
by Crease
John Murray is a good fighter... But I think he will get better.

Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 19:30
by crusader
I haven't seen anything that suggests he would beat the best in the division. He is a poor man's Brandon Rios.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 20:14
by jamesbairstow
He gets caught too many times with cheap shots. He has no plan 'b' either. We will never win a legit world title. I hope he meets Kevin Mitchell though, that would be a good scrap.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 21:58
by whicker
He's capable, but really needs moving up in class sooner the better.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 03:13
by alexpaterson
Juan Diaz would be a perfect gauging fight for him now. Diaz has regressed from his prime but he's still a world class fighter! Perfect fight for him at this stage and to get his name in America and higher in the world rankings!
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 03:45
by Jon Saxon
No he can't, he's euro level at best.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 04:00
by Tomasino
No way! I was hoping for big things from Murray earlier in his career but he has just not improved in the key areas such as defense, ring generalship and technique. He is slow, predictable and very hittable. I think Mitchell should be next and that he will struggle with Kevins speed.
I also feel he has beaten nobody good enough to deserve a world
title shot although in today's game this doesn't make much odds.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 04:37
by Happy Slapper
I don't think he punches hard enough either. You need to bang a bit at the top level, and he just doesn't have that really hurtful punch in his locker. He's more of a 'wear you down' type, but at the top level I think you need a bit more than that.
I like watching him fight though

Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 04:41
by DIRT SUGAR
Exciting TV fighter who works very hard but don't see him excelling against the best. Has never looked a 'can't miss prospect' to me. Sorry.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 04:48
by Josh1111
31-0, beat the best europe has to offer (except Mitchell) and has been out of the ring for 7 months. This guy deserves a shot at higher class opposition, even if he loses.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 05:30
by Ketchel
I have never been a big Mitchell fan but thnk he missed an opportunity when he could have been in the opposite corner on Saturday night. The Mitchell that beat Prescott would have beat Murray the other night. Maybe thats who they should bring in next for Murray if the Mitchell fight can't be made.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 05:59
by jBacca
Happy Slapper wrote:I don't think he punches hard enough either. You need to bang a bit at the top level, and he just doesn't have that really hurtful punch in his locker. He's more of a 'wear you down' type, but at the top level I think you need a bit more than that.
I like watching him fight though

+2
There are better technical boxers and harder hits at the top. Murray may win a world title, but I don't think he's good enough to unify or reign.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 11:32
by Happy Slapper
Ketchel wrote:I have never been a big Mitchell fan but thnk he missed an opportunity when he could have been in the opposite corner on Saturday night. The Mitchell that beat Prescott would have beat Murray the other night. Maybe thats who they should bring in next for Murray if the Mitchell fight can't be made.
Murray will be Mitchell. Not a problem.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 11:41
by stujones
Josh1111 wrote:31-0, beat the best europe has to offer (except Mitchell) and has been out of the ring for 7 months. This guy deserves a shot at higher class opposition, even if he loses.
Gavin Rees, Crolla - might argue that they should be among the best Europe has to offer. What about Mezzache also - the guy who beat Thaxton.
I don't think Thaxton and Buckland at their respected stages were Europes finest.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 11:47
by Coco
I think his stagnation has def hurt him
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 12:21
by Camcas
I think he can but not this year, fight Mitchell, Crolla and Rees over next six months and if he gets through them move him on as this will not only give him tough fights but also experience of being pressured
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 12:29
by Final round
Talking about Euro LW's whatever happened to Yuri Romanov he never fought again after Thaxton..
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 13:06
by tear up
i say he can fighters go stale over long period of time he a machine just because he s had a bad night hell bounce back before he gets a world title fight would like to shot michele in with him i take murray late stoppage

Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 14:14
by whiskey
He's with the right promoter to select the right belt at the right time.
But winning a belt and "beating the best" are different things entirely.
Look at Ricky Burns.
Re: john murray... can he beat the best
Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 04:12
by mickey1975
G0mez wrote:He's with the right promoter to select the right belt at the right time.
But winning a belt and "beating the best" are different things entirely.
Look at Ricky Burns.
Martinez was no 2 when Burns beat him.His defeces have left a lot to be desired but you cant fault his belt winning performance.Look at Froch,only won a vacant title and then lost to a guy coming off a bad beating to a guy considered the divisions number one yet can do no wrong on here.Go figure.