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I wasn't sure how to word the title but let me explain.

Oscar De La Hoya- 6 Career Losses
-Manny Pacquiao
-Floyd Mayweather Jr.
-Bernard Hopkins
-Shane Mosely x2
-Felix Trinidad

Felix Trinidad- 3 Career Losses
-Bernard Hopkins
-Winky Wright
-Roy Jones Jr.

This isn't a thread to argue fights that a fighter did not lose or where the opponents/fighter was in their career when they fought, just names. Someone like Zab Judah wouldn't qualify because even though he did lose to the Mayweathers/Tszyu's of the world, losing to Baldomir disqualifies his from this list. So which fighter has lost to the best competition throughout his career?

Fritzie Zivic was who first came to mind:

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Charley Burley
Billy Conn
Lou Ambers
Kid Azteca
Jake LaMotta
Beau Jack
Hank Kaplan
Freddie Cochrane

Ezzard Charles also does well:

Rocky Marciano
Harold Johnson
Jersey Joe Walcott
Elmer Ray
Lloyd Marshall
Jimmy Bivins

Just realised you mean including every loss, but I'll leave them there because of how impressive the competition is. Zivic's list is amazing.

Was thinking Zivic as well.

What about Shane Mosley:

Floyd Mayweather
Miguel Cotto
Winky Wright twice
and Vernon Forest twice.

All on points.

Marco Antonio Barrera:
Amir Khan TD 5
Manny Pacquiao PTS12 and TKO 11
Juan Manuel Marques PTS12
Erik Morales PTS 12
Junior Jones PTS 12 and DQ 5

Mosley is another good shout, yes.

How have we forgotten Frazier to this point!? Damn!

Steve Collins:

Mike McCallum
Reggie Johnson
Sumbu Kalambay

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Mosley is another good shout, yes.

How have we forgotten Frazier to this point!? Damn!

Of the modern greats we can also throw in
Erik Morales

Manny Pacquiao TKO10 and KO3
Marco Antonio Barrera PTS12 twice
David Diaz PTS12
Marcos Maidana PTS12
Zahir Raheem PTS 12

Juan Manuel Marquez
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Chris John
Freddie Norwood

All on points how does everyone count the debut loss v Javier Duran on DQ

...joe louis

max Schmeling
ezzard charles
rocky marciano

first loss he avenged with fury
last two..past his prime

How about the always underrated Fidel LaBarba?

Kid Chocolate x2
Jimmy McLarnin x2
Baby Arizmendi
Battling battalino
Eddie Shea
Kid Francis
Tommy Paul
Johnny Vacca x2
Seaman Tommy Watson
Johnny Pena
Claude Varner
Earl Mastro

The last 3 aren't world beaters. But none of them were scrubs.

Again selective, but Archie Moore:

Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Rocky Marciano
Harold Johnson
Ezzard Charles
Jimmy Bivins
Charley Burley
Eddie Booker
Jack Chase
Teddy Yarosz

Which has the most impressive though?

I think so far De La Hoya edges Frazier and Louis by the slightest of margins.

Hatton:
Mayweather
Pacquiao

Laguna:
Ortiz
Buchanan
Saldivar
Elorde
(and a couple more less established fighters)

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:How about the always underrated Fidel LaBarba?

Kid Chocolate x2
Jimmy McLarnin x2
Baby Arizmendi
Battling battalino
Eddie Shea
Kid Francis
Tommy Paul
Johnny Vacca x2
Seaman Tommy Watson
Johnny Pena
Claude Varner
Earl Mastro

The last 3 aren't world beaters. But none of them were scrubs.

Since you mentioned Tommy Paul

Freddie Miller X4 (also 2 wins for)
Fidel Labarba x3 (also a win)
Holman Williams
Baby Arizmendi
Jackie Wilson x2
Leo Rodak

Hall of Famers or title holders.

Ken Norton:

Gerry Cooney
George Foreman
Muhammad Ali X 2
Larry Holmes
Earnie Shavers

Joe Frazier

Foreman x 2
Ali x 2

Duran !!!

Leonard X2
Hagler
Hearns
Benitez
Pazienza
Camacho X2
Joppy
De Jesus

That's a hell of a lineup. Good topic by the way.

Jose Luis Ramirez:
Ruben Olivares
Ray Mancini
Alexis Arguello
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whittaker
Juan Martin Coggi

alexpaterson wrote:Jose Luis Ramirez:
Ruben Olivares
Ray Mancini
Alexis Arguello
Edwin Rosario
Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whittaker
Juan Martin Coggi

Damn, is that good

Ike Quartey

De La Hoya - L12
Fernando Vargas - L12
Vernon Forrest - L12
Winky Wright - L12

What about
Bernard Hopkins

Jermain Taylor PTS12 x2
Joe Calzaghe PTS 12
Roy Jones Jnr (prime) PTS12

William Joppy
Bebit Shumlenov KO6
Sebastian Demers PTS10
Lucian Bute TKO10
Taylor PTS12
Hopkins PTS12
Felix Trinidad TKO5
Julio Cesar Green PTS12

and I might as well chuck in
Tito Trinidad
Roland Winky Wright PTS12
Jones PTS12
Hopkins TKO12

A couple of Heavyweights that are generally not given much credit, but they both only lost to good fighters. In some cases past their prime, but still...

Francois Botha (5 losses)

Michael Moorer - L KO12
Mike Tyson - L KO5
Lennox Lewis - L KO2
Wladimir Klitschko - L KO8
Evander Holyfield - L KO8

Gerry Cooney (3 losses)

Larry Holmes - L KO13
Michael Spinks - L KO5
George Foreman - L KO2

It gotta be the great Sugar Ray Robinson
LTKO14 Joey Maxim
L15 Randy Turpin (I)
L10 Jake LaMotta (II)
L15,l15 Gene Fullmer (I,IV)
L15 Carmen Basilio (I)
L15, L15 Paul Pender
L10 Denny Moyer (II)
L10 Joey Giardello
L10 Terry Downes

In this list, he lost to 7 possible hall of famers.

elmersalsa wrote:It gotta be the great Sugar Ray Robinson
LTKO14 Joey Maxim
L15 Randy Turpin (I)
L10 Jake LaMotta (II)
L15,l15 Gene Fullmer (I,IV)
L15 Carmen Basilio (I)
L15, L15 Paul Pender
L10 Denny Moyer (II)
L10 Joey Giardello
L10 Terry Downes

In this list, he lost to 7 possible hall of famers.

Yeah, but that's not all of his losses.

..sugar ray lost just once, not twice, to jake lamotta....

This a great topic; can't say I've ever seen one like it before. 8)

I'm in the Zivic camp, but it's such close call, as ODLH is also a worthy contender.

I don't think you can consider Frazier TBH, even though he lost to 2 of the best HWs of the last 50 years; he didn't lose enough! :P