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Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 05:15
by Captain Hook
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 07:46
by bripez
Mac -v- Bellew would be an interesting fight - both can bang and both can be vulnerable.
As Bellew looks as though he struggles to make LH, why not a fight at a catch-weight of 13 stone ?
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 08:00
by Coco
Enzo would beat Bellow
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 10:55
by danfoster
Coco wrote:Enzo would beat Bellow
disagree - think bellew would wreck him, would hate to see this fight - i think enzo looks like his punch resistance has totally gone and it would be better if he quit coz i'd hate to see him get hurt - seems a good guy
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 15 Apr 2011, 11:26
by jamesmcdonnell
Yep, I think Enzo's done really, ever since the Haye fight, he's seemingly lost all his punch resistance. He was always a little chinny I think, he's got a pretty long not very thick neck, and his jawbone is quite narrow also, which doesn't usually bode well for taking a solid lick.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 07:00
by Captain Hook
Agree with you and Dan, a real shame but having a good chin and punch resistance is something you can't teach in the gym.
Shame, as some of the guys he's lost to were not as good as him, they just took a shot better..
I don't include Haye on that list, obviously, but Frenkel and Afolabi are two I think he'd have beaten convincingly if he had a cast iron jaw.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 09:00
by whicker
He's been seriously sparked in, what, 4 of his last 8 fights. It's perhaps questionable if he should be allowed to continue. I know it's the nature of the sport, but seriously, this could all end really badly.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 09:14
by DougieC30
whicker wrote:He's been seriously sparked in, what, 4 of his last 8 fights. It's perhaps questionable if he should be allowed to continue. I know it's the nature of the sport, but seriously, this could all end really badly.
Totally agree. He's had a good career, there's no point in trying to make a comeback.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 09:18
by Cas
Could be another ugly knock-out. Enzo really does need to retire, there is nothing for him to prove.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 10:00
by ArtOfWar
He maybe better off at light heavy, but I doubt it. It's more likely that he'll be severly weight drained as Chris Byrd was when he dropped down from heavyweight. Either way though it's up to him when he wants to retire.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 12:06
by danfoster
ArtOfWar wrote:He maybe better off at light heavy, but I doubt it. It's more likely that he'll be severly weight drained as Chris Byrd was when he dropped down from heavyweight. Either way though it's up to him when he wants to retire.
Agree that it is his call but there comes a time when those whose role it is to protect boxers and the good name of the sport need to take the decision out of the hands of fighters who are too brave - or too broke - for their own good.
Not saying Enzo is broke - have no idea at all on that front - but sometimes fighters carry on taking bouts for the cash and the damage done is irreparable.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 12:55
by JC
Captain Hook wrote:Agree with you and Dan, a real shame but having a good chin and punch resistance is something you can't teach in the gym.
Shame, as some of the guys he's lost to were not as good as him, they just took a shot better..
I don't include Haye on that list, obviously, but Frenkel and Afolabi are two I think he'd have beaten convincingly if he had a cast iron jaw.
I think the lack of a plan B when he failed to blast Afolabi out of there was the bigger problem in their fight.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 18 Apr 2011, 13:18
by stujones
If Enzo is to comeback then he might aswell have a good go for it - which will mean these young lions.
I would like to see him have at least one tune up at the new weight first - could you have imagined what David Haye would have done to Chris Byrd - but after that, might aswell be left of the leash.... whats the point of a half-hearted effort.
Re: Don't throw Enzo to the young wolves
Posted: 19 Apr 2011, 04:39
by Captain Hook
I take you point Stu, that is the other side of the coin.
It's a case of retire, come back all guns blazing and have one last crack at it (and there is a 75% chance you'll get badly, badly hurt again) or take an easier path and have 4/5 bouts against solid but not huge punching opposition and see where that takes him
I'm not usually one for encouraging fighter to take an easy fight, but boy does this guy deserve some.......been a serious of bangers, crunching KOs and tough fights one after the other for too long. Look at how quickly he won the Euro title after being messed up and coming back.