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Further to the previous thread, what ATG had the best opposition?

Fritzie Zivic
He was fighting either Lamotta,Armstrong,Robinson or Burley every week.

Sam Langford, Ezzard Charles & Archie Moore would be my top 3.

Yep,Grebs got a great one no question.
Robinson too. Saads choices are spot on too. Ali's is great also.

I lean to Charles, personally.

Greb, no contest.

dempseyfire wrote:Greb, no contest.

Dont be silly.

No fighter ever fought as many HAll of Fame fighters, across as many weight classes, as many times, as Harry Greb. I'm being serious, Greb is an easy #1 here. The only people who would disagree are people ignorant of 19teens and 20s era boxing.

dempseyfire wrote:No fighter ever fought as many HAll of Fame fighters, across as many weight classes, as many times, as Harry Greb. I'm being serious, Greb is an easy #1 here. The only people who would disagree are people ignorant of 19teens and 20s era boxing.

Langford fought alltime greats from Lightweight to heavyweight. There is nothing ignorant about putting his opponents over Greb's. Charles & moore are right there as well. Ignorant is acting like your answer is the only reasonable one.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:No fighter ever fought as many HAll of Fame fighters, across as many weight classes, as many times, as Harry Greb. I'm being serious, Greb is an easy #1 here. The only people who would disagree are people ignorant of 19teens and 20s era boxing.

Langford fought alltime greats from Lightweight to heavyweight. There is nothing ignorant about putting his opponents over Greb's. Charles & moore are right there as well. Ignorant is acting like your answer is the only reasonable one.

Langford still didn't beat as many great fighters as Greb did.

I'm not trying to sound conceited, but really, Greb's resume has an abundance of quality AND quantity, more than Langford, more than Charles, more than Robinson . . .I'm not saying they aren't in the same ballpark, but I think it's a fairly easy task to compare resumes and Greb comes out on top everytime.

dempseyfire wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:No fighter ever fought as many HAll of Fame fighters, across as many weight classes, as many times, as Harry Greb. I'm being serious, Greb is an easy #1 here. The only people who would disagree are people ignorant of 19teens and 20s era boxing.

Langford fought alltime greats from Lightweight to heavyweight. There is nothing ignorant about putting his opponents over Greb's. Charles & moore are right there as well. Ignorant is acting like your answer is the only reasonable one.

Langford still didn't beat as many great fighters as Greb did.

I'm not trying to sound conceited, but really, Greb's resume has an abundance of quality AND quantity, more than Langford, more than Charles, more than Robinson . . .I'm not saying they aren't in the same ballpark, but I think it's a fairly easy task to compare resumes and Greb comes out on top everytime.

I wouldn't call you conceited, just misguided.

I am comfortable rating Langord and Charles over Greb. Not that I find Harry above them ridiculous. But there is no doubt for me that he ranks below them both. There is no definite with fighters of that caliber. Harry's resume is insane though, no doubt about it.

Yes, it's Greb, Langford, Charles, Moore, Robinson...

The order is your own.

Since Robinson I'd go with Duran