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Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 05:53
by damianhucker1
its a descent enough card , but the ppv will only show maybe 3 or 4 fights , which annoys the hell out of me , in my opinion a ppv card should include every fight , its up to the paying spectator wether he watches them all , but that should be at least an option , would it really take that much extra effort , even if they were just shown without commentary until the main show starts .
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 05:54
by wadey
Nicky Cook v Al Hamedi - Seriously what is the point????
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 05:59
by wadey
I know i appreciate that, but with his age and experience, it is a pointless fight. He may as well just do 10 rounds extra sparring.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:03
by stujones
MachoMan09 wrote:Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:There is a lot of Welsh interest on the Undercard which is nice for us lot travelling up to watch Cleverly.

Well I'll be there to support Braehmer and while you Welshies will be louder, this (adopted) German will be the one smiling at the end of the fight.

Do you think the inactivity of Braehmer will play a role in the fight? I personally think Warren has timed this correctly.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:20
by Glyn Leach
Good show IMO
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:36
by Poncey
Glyn Leach wrote:Good show IMO
X2
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:40
by Counter-puncher
I'm seeing people say *if* Clev gets caught....
come on, now, when have we seen him in action NOT getting smacked really hard round the chops?
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:51
by Scottrf
*Hijack alert* Anyone know a good place near the arena to watch the Heineken Cup Final?
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:57
by orbtastic
I think it's a good style match-up. I'd expect Braehmer to bang him to the body with the left hook and bring up the uppercuts. I think Cleverly can nick it by being slightly busier and punching in bunches (sorry to use a cliche) and keeping Braehmer thinking and not giving him time to fire off those big shots.
I'd love to see Clev use his height and reach and jabbing the crap out of him and using combinations at range but it's just not gonna happen.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 07:00
by Glyn Leach
wadey wrote:I know i appreciate that, but with his age and experience, it is a pointless fight. He may as well just do 10 rounds extra sparring.
It's a case of 'passing go and collecting' wadey — he comes through this one and he gets to fight Burns next time out
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 07:22
by dondada
Glyn Leach wrote:Good show IMO
Depends what you like. If it's competitive fights (esp for Box Office), how many are there? (on paper, of course)
Not many.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 07:29
by Counter-puncher
Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:I'm seeing people say *if* Clev gets caught....
come on, now, when have we seen him in action NOT getting smacked really hard round the chops?
Being smacked hard by his previous opponents and being smack hard by Braehmer are 2 different things completely.
I appreciate that he likes a war though and doesn't make things easy for himself by any stretch! I hope he boxes as we know he can though because
he is more than capable of making this an easy nights work imo.
woah, bold statement. the one i've bolded, arf arf.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 07:34
by stujones
I see the Clev fight going the distance myself. I think people are overating the power of Brahmer. Okay, he had an off night - but Mario Shite when the distance with him in their first fight. He is often a grind them down kind of fighter, when he steps up against durable fighters he cannot even budge them (e.g. Garay).
He is far from feather fisted, I would classify him as a puncher, but he isn't the second coming of Mike Tyson and Clev's chin has past every test so far.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 07:37
by Glyn Leach
I seriously believe that Braehmer-Cleverly will be a draw - might even put some money on it
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 08:14
by Counter-puncher
ummm ok then
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 08:17
by alexpaterson
Good step up for Saunders. Hammond will give it a right go! Cracking card overall
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 08:22
by Counter-puncher
fair play to you mate. i think 'easy night's work' is by far the least likely outcome, however

Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 09:50
by Counter-puncher
haha. okay, say Braehmer doesn't turn up.
that's one scenario in which i can see an easy night's work for clev
Braehmer ain't even turned up yet.
however, clev ain't fought anyone on Braehmer's level, or at the level of Braehmer's competition, yet, not as far as I can see. he is as yet unproven at world level, and we've all seen plenty of British fighters who look mint at euro level get a caning when they step up.

Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 10:00
by orbtastic
he's done all the press so far, i think he'll turn up*
*altercations with taxi drivers et al notwithstanding.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 10:15
by WestEndRiot
Very poor card in my opinion, only two competitive fights out of 14 just isn't acceptable. Fair enough, the two fights are both potential FOTY candidates and are genuine 50/50 match ups on paper, but i don't wanna sit through 12 glorified sparring sessions before.
I feel like i'm repeating myself every time this subject comes up but it can't be that difficult (or expensive) to put on a few more closely matched fights. Get Sexton in a British or English eliminator with Skelton/Harrison/Olubamiwo, Smith likewise with Mendy/David/Anderson.
I won't complain about Nicky Cook since Al Hamidi is probably my favourite journeyman to watch and Cook's had 2 years out.
We don't need big names with unbeaten records fighting each other every time, just actual fights. A couple of area title fights wouldn't go amiss either.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 11:03
by Bomber 1
Brahmer cannot outpoint Clev, he does not work enough and tends to cover up a fair bit, I see Clev outworking him, I just hope he boxes early in the fight, I feel Jurgen blows from 6 onwards and if Clev attacks the torso it could pay dividens later on, once past 6 I fancy Clev bigtime but for the first 6 I side with Jurgen!! This won't be easy and Clev will have to come through certain patches but he can do it! I hope so anyway..
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patience early and long range boxing is an absolute must!!
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 11:19
by orbtastic
using a phrase like "cannot outpoint clev" could come back and bite you in the backside fella...As you know, a knockdown can easily level the scorecards, no matter how your workrate is.
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 11:19
by Counter-puncher
nice to see you Tony, hope all's well with you fella

Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 11:20
by Counter-puncher
orbtastic wrote:using a phrase like "cannot outpoint clev" could come back and bite you in the backside fella...As you know, a knockdown can easily level the scorecards, no matter how your workrate is.
remember we ain't in germany, though.....
Re: MAY 21st - Line up announced (bar 1 or 2!)
Posted: 13 May 2011, 11:22
by orbtastic
Counter-puncher wrote:orbtastic wrote:using a phrase like "cannot outpoint clev" could come back and bite you in the backside fella...As you know, a knockdown can easily level the scorecards, no matter how your workrate is.
remember we ain't in germany, though.....
It'll be puntastic if Tony ever fights in Germany...talk about field day (!)