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The current heavyweight division is hotting up domestically with a number of names all on a collision course. There is a decent mix of proven fighters and top level prospects where will it ultimately rank amongst these other great domestic heavyweight era's?

Present
Dereck Chisora
Tyson Fury
David Price
John McDermott
Sam Sexton
Richard Towers

Early 90's
Lennox Lewis
Gary Mason
Glen McCrory
Herbie Hide
Dereck Williams

Early - Mid 60's
Henry Cooper
Brian London
Joe Erskine
Dick RIchardson
Billy Walker

Post War 1945-50
Bruce Woodcock
Freddie Mills
Jack Gardener
Jack London

I'm not sure Glenn McCrory was ever a heavyweight, but yeah the domestic heavyweight scene is good at the moment - no world beaters but some great fights - price-mcdermott is interesting - if chisora fights fury, more than interesting. Sexton and Rogan fighting any of the names above, always good to watch. Tom Dallas - who Knows?

Lewis ko'd McCrory in 2 rounds in a heavy weight british and european title fight.

fair call - but McCrory could never really be described as a heavyweight. By this time he was a fat C*** - 2and half stone in a year hardly part of a great heavyweight scene.

@ glenn mcrory what about akinwande, welch,francis.

hurlock wrote:@ glenn mcrory what about akinwande, welch,francis.

Frank Bruno?

mercman wrote:

yid14 wrote:fair call - but McCrory could never really be described as a heavyweight. By this time he was a fat C*** - 2and half stone in a year hardly part of a great heavyweight scene.

Although McCrory was at his best as a cruserweight he fought at heavyweight for over half his career. McCrory had nearly twenty fights as a heavyweight at the beginning of his career before going down to cruiserweight and then yo-yoing between the two divisions towards the tail end of his career.

I stand corrected - Glenn McCrory was one of the great british heavyweights of the 90's

mercman wrote:

yid14 wrote:

mercman wrote: Although McCrory was at his best as a cruserweight he fought at heavyweight for over half his career. McCrory had nearly twenty fights as a heavyweight at the beginning of his career before going down to cruiserweight and then yo-yoing between the two divisions towards the tail end of his career.

I stand corrected - Glenn McCrory was one of the great british heavyweights of the 90's

That's not what I implied. I merely said McCrory had more fights as a heavyweight than he did as a cruiserweight. Unfortunately, you have either not read my post properly or you seem to have purposely misinterpreted my point.

It was the second, too hungover - getting old and can't handle my beer anymore.

mercman that could be said for loads of small heavies :!: didnt the cruiserweight division emerge in the late eighties?

McCrory did much better with his career than most of us thought he would do, and he was about at the time when boxing was on free television so got to see alot of him.
Hope I didn't come across earlier as a Glenn McCrory hater because I'm far from it.

mercman wrote:

hurlock wrote:mercman that could be said for loads of small heavies :!: didnt the cruiserweight division emerge in the late eighties?

First British cruiserweight title was about '85-'86, I think. I know Sammy Reeson was the first holder of the title.

i impress myself with my knowledge D

bunny johnson would of been great at 13-7 :!: you'd probably find most post heavies from 86 would of been cruisers.

i think the welsh guy who was british champion i allways forget his name tho david somthing???had a beard D

mercman wrote:David Pearce.

thats it :!: he was awesome on his day & would of ate enzo alive :!:

mercman wrote:

yid14 wrote:

mercman wrote: Although McCrory was at his best as a cruserweight he fought at heavyweight for over half his career. McCrory had nearly twenty fights as a heavyweight at the beginning of his career before going down to cruiserweight and then yo-yoing between the two divisions towards the tail end of his career.

I stand corrected - Glenn McCrory was one of the great british heavyweights of the 90's

That's not what I implied. I merely said McCrory had more fights as a heavyweight than he did as a cruiserweight. Unfortunately, you have either not read my post properly or you seem to have purposely misinterpreted my point.

He lost most of his heavyweight bouts
Lost to the likes of John westgarth etc hardly a step up in class , not say westgarth was poor but he was an average British heavyweight at the time

I'd say the early 1990s.

You've also got to add Frank Bruno to that list & that makes it even better.

There were some very dangerous campaigners; even the likes of Herbie Hide, even though he was not a heavyweight (read his autobiography for details), his punch power was such that he was able to destroy much heavier men.

Won his first 13 on the bounce v tomato cans ! Westgarth knocked him out westgarth was won 5 lost 2 at the time says it all.

You missed out on the early 1980s heavyweight prospects

Funso Banjo
Frank Bruno
Rudi Pika
Glenn McCrory (The ring picked him as 'prospect of the month)
Bobby Wells (1984 Olympic bronze medalist)
Adrian Elliott (won the ABA title about 10 times and was signed by Lawless and Duff)
Noel Quarless

As for the 1970s

Joe Bugner
Richard Dunn
Bunny Johnson
John Conteh (who early on in his career was being hailed as a 'heavyweight prospect to rival Muhammad Ali)
Billy Aird
John L. Gardner
Danny McAlinden

And Horace Notice

Coco wrote:And Horace Notice

And Gary Mason! (RIP)

And if we remember the 1990s and we had heavyweight badboys like Keith Fletcher (a personal favourite of mine) Gordon Minors, Greg Westlake, Damian Caesar, Danny Watts, Keith Ferdinand and many more...

The reason i deliberately left out Haye and Bruno is because during the periods mentioned they weren't operating at domestic level. All of those mentioned were competing at British title level all at the same time.

wrimc wrote:The reason i deliberately left out Haye and Bruno is because during the periods mentioned they weren't operating at domestic level. All of those mentioned were competing at British title level all at the same time.

To be honest, Bruno fought quite a few domestic heavies - Winston Allen, Eddie Neilson, Stewart Lithgow to name a few - he didn't win a British title for sure but nor did many on your original lists.

Fat Git wrote:

wrimc wrote:The reason i deliberately left out Haye and Bruno is because during the periods mentioned they weren't operating at domestic level. All of those mentioned were competing at British title level all at the same time.

To be honest, Bruno fought quite a few domestic heavies - Winston Allen, Eddie Neilson, Stewart Lithgow to name a few - he didn't win a British title for sure but nor did many on your original lists.

Agreed but i am interested in specific era's ie a short space of a few years during the early 90's for 89-93 up until his fight with Lewis Bruno fought foreign opposition as he was rebuilding for the loss to Tyson. He didnt actually fight Lewis (Not at domestic level) Mason Williams or the top domestic contenders during this period. So he can't be classified as part of the domestic scene at least not during this period.

wrimc wrote:

Fat Git wrote:

wrimc wrote:The reason i deliberately left out Haye and Bruno is because during the periods mentioned they weren't operating at domestic level. All of those mentioned were competing at British title level all at the same time.

To be honest, Bruno fought quite a few domestic heavies - Winston Allen, Eddie Neilson, Stewart Lithgow to name a few - he didn't win a British title for sure but nor did many on your original lists.

Agreed but i am interested in specific era's ie a short space of a few years during the early 90's for 89-93 up until his fight with Lewis Bruno fought foreign opposition as he was rebuilding for the loss to Tyson. He didnt actually fight Lewis (Not at domestic level) Mason Williams or the top domestic contenders during this period. So he can't be classified as part of the domestic scene at least not during this period.

You are right, Bruno was way past 'prospect' status by the mid 1980s - I misunderstood!

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