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Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 09:55
by Shirow
Can someone tell me if taking part in semi pro bouts will make it any more difficult to get licensed by the BBBC? I know an amateur who is thinking of taking a few bouts as a stepping stone to turn pro.
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 09:58
by Coco
Shirow wrote:Can someone tell me if taking part in semi pro bouts will make it any more difficult to get licensed by the BBBC? I know an amateur who is thinking of taking a few bouts as a stepping stone to turn pro.
Tell him to fight under a mickey mouse name
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 09:59
by damianhucker1
Shirow wrote:Can someone tell me if taking part in semi pro bouts will make it any more difficult to get licensed by the BBBC? I know an amateur who is thinking of taking a few bouts as a stepping stone to turn pro.
Wont matter nowadays but would have at one time , he would have to stop boxing amateur though or risk losing his card if they found out , get him to message me on here or ring/text me if he wants to fight on one of mine , ill inbox you my phone number .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 11:39
by Re-up Gang
a friend of mine just picked up boxing and he is doing well sparring against his friends and tells me he needs more of a chellenge but does not want to get completely destroyed.
whats the next step? some white collar bouts i suggested but am not sure though as ihave no experience in this kind of thing.
i know he does not wantto go pro or anything like that just wants higher level of competition that i give him lool.
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 16:32
by Shirow
Thanks for the replies. The boxer definitely doesn't want to go back the amateurs so that shouldn't be an issue.
I've replied to your pm Damian.
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 16:52
by bobskin
wtf is semi pro! no such thing
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 16:58
by the truth
Boils my blood when ppl say they're semi pro ! No such thing
There's amateur boxing, pro boxing and the joke tat you call semi pro- unlicensed boxing which mostly consists of total nuggets pretending to people they " pro" , and before people start I said mostly, some ex pros do it and ex amateur but it mostly consists of chavs who couldn't box eggs
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 18:40
by Jeff Thomas
the truth wrote:Boils my blood when ppl say they're semi pro ! No such thing
There's amateur boxing, pro boxing and the joke tat you call semi pro- unlicensed boxing which mostly consists of total nuggets pretending to people they " pro" , and before people start I said mostly, some ex pros do it and ex amateur but it mostly consists of chavs who couldn't box eggs
8)
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 18:50
by Coco
Is semi pro a bit like being semi pregnant!
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 19:08
by Finn
Yeah pisses me off too
Your either an am or a pro. Then theres white collar boxing which is for guys who just want to have a bash at it.
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 19:16
by damianhucker1
kingfinn wrote:Yeah pisses me off too
Your either an am or a pro. Then theres white collar boxing which is for guys who just want to have a bash at it.
White collar / Unlicensed / semi pro - All exactly the same thing given different names to suit the particuar promotion .
as with regards to being no such thing as semi pro - dont talk rubbish lads - a professional means they do the sport full time for a living , how many boxers still hold down a job ?, i think that youll find that in the real meaning of the word that most pro's are actually semi pro , a more accurate name for a pro boxer is a BBBoC licensed boxer , at least in this country , or as is said in the white collar scene quite often " With the board" , if a boxer on the white collar scene wants to call themselves a semi pro boxer i have no issue with that , as thats exactly what they are , they box for an additional income .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 19 May 2011, 21:09
by the truth
Don't talk absolute garbage I bet your an unlicensed promoter or something?
A proffessional boxer is someone who has paid for his bbboc licence, medical and brain scan and has passed a ring test to make sure he is of suitable standard to fight ! That's a pro boxer ok
An unlicensed boxer is usually some fuk wit that brings all his mates to see him box "pro" has been in the ring, usually with his mates at the gym like twice and when he's had a few pints thinks he's the hardest man in the pub, if someone wants to be a boxer then either turn pro or have a few amateur bouts. This is not to call white-collar when it's just a fee middle aged business men doing it for charity and fun, I'm talking about the majority unlicenced show full of mugs who think they can have a row , they can't that's why the do the " pretend " boxing ok
And it's people like you who no doubt profit off their idiotic behaviour.
Nuggets as I've said
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 08:36
by sweetscience
The Truth has nailed it on the head for me !
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 15:54
by Finn
damianhucker1 wrote:kingfinn wrote:Yeah pisses me off too
Your either an am or a pro. Then theres white collar boxing which is for guys who just want to have a bash at it.
White collar / Unlicensed / semi pro - All exactly the same thing given different names to suit the particuar promotion .
as with regards to being no such thing as semi pro - dont talk rubbish lads - a professional means they do the sport full time for a living , how many boxers still hold down a job ?, i think that youll find that in the real meaning of the word that most pro's are actually semi pro , a more accurate name for a pro boxer is a BBBoC licensed boxer , at least in this country , or as is said in the white collar scene quite often " With the board" , if a boxer on the white collar scene wants to call themselves a semi pro boxer i have no issue with that , as thats exactly what they are , they box for an additional income .
bollocks! - most pro boxers have jobs as well. unlicensed boxing doesnt get you enough money to consider yourself semi pro. My mate gets paid £40 a match to play football he doesnt fall into the semi pro footballer category.
biased git
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 17:42
by damianhucker1
kingfinn wrote:damianhucker1 wrote:kingfinn wrote:Yeah pisses me off too
Your either an am or a pro. Then theres white collar boxing which is for guys who just want to have a bash at it.
White collar / Unlicensed / semi pro - All exactly the same thing given different names to suit the particuar promotion .
as with regards to being no such thing as semi pro - dont talk rubbish lads - a professional means they do the sport full time for a living , how many boxers still hold down a job ?, i think that youll find that in the real meaning of the word that most pro's are actually semi pro , a more accurate name for a pro boxer is a BBBoC licensed boxer , at least in this country , or as is said in the white collar scene quite often " With the board" , if a boxer on the white collar scene wants to call themselves a semi pro boxer i have no issue with that , as thats exactly what they are , they box for an additional income .
bollocks! - most pro boxers have jobs as well. unlicensed boxing doesnt get you enough money to consider yourself semi pro. My mate gets paid £40 a match to play football he doesnt fall into the semi pro footballer category.
biased git
Ill start with your point kingfin , if your mate gets £40 to play football then actually he IS semi pro , either that or a ringer for a sunday league team that want to cheat their way to the top ., my brother is a semi pro footballer mate and he gets £60 per match . furthermore you reiterated my point when you said most boxers still have jobs , thats exactly what i was saying.
Truth
now your comment actually offends me as you plainly have no idea what your talking about , have you ever been to one of my shows to know what my fighters are like , and they train everyday , like a pro would , some came into the sport too late to consider going pro , some are ex pros who finacially cannot aafford to stay pro , if you knew the ins and outs you wouldnt have sid a "semi pro" boxer cant earn enough to be classed as semi pro , as i assure you they can , i can GUARANTEE that an average domestic or low level boxer can earn a damn sight more boxing on one of my shows than as a pro , and there will be people on here who can back me up on this , as far as saying im effectively milking the money away your again wrong , what i do is pay for opponents close enought to my fighters to create a close match, no one wants to see people get hammered in my opinion , its not what i want to see and its therfor not what id expect to give to the paying spectator , why on earth do you think white collar / semi pro / unlicensed shows do so well , its cos there close matches rather than prospect beats journeyman all the way through a card , of course theres some dodgy promotors but its not like snatch and anyone who thinks it is watches too many movies etc , and just for the record the reason i do white collar shows is nowadays due to me putting part of the revenue to one side to get my pro license as a promotor , an intention that the bbboc are well aware of and i have discussed with les potts about this , im aiming to turn pro , around 2014 , im still only 30 so got time on my side plus i know how tough it is to make a living as a lowly promotor starting out in the pros and want to save a bit of capital so i can give it a good go without having to worry too much about the finances in the early stages .
If i could go pro right now , today i would , and would have a few fighters at my disposal too but unfortunately im not in a position financially as yet to do so , so anyonewho disagrees with what im doing can think what they like as i have a clear vision in my mind .
Edit : i apologise truth it was kingfinn who said semi pro boxers cant earn enough .
Anyway do you know what makes a semi pro footballer semi pro ? its the fact they do it part time , as in they have another income too , the same can be said about my boxers just as it can many "pro" boxers , like i said their more accurate name should be BBBoc Licensed boxers or board licensed rather than pro boxer as most pro boxers arent actually fully professional , they in the most part have a job too . Argue it all you like its FACT .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 18:57
by the truth
Bbboc- pro boxing
Unlicensed - not pro boxing. Fact
I will repeat my point no such thing as semi pro
The rules are there so people meet the standards required to be a professional boxer, it's like a plumber not qualified saying he's a plumber to ppl and charging them, point is he's officially not unless he's has the qualifications. So I stick to my original point no such thing as semi pro!!!!!
Ok
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 19:02
by damianhucker1
the truth wrote:Bbboc- pro boxing
Unlicensed - not pro boxing. Fact
I will repeat my point no such thing as semi pro
The rules are there so people meet the standards required to be a professional boxer, it's like a plumber not qualified saying he's a plumber to ppl and charging them, point is he's officially not unless he's has the qualifications. So I stick to my original point no such thing as semi pro!!!!!
Ok
thats your view but doesnt make it right , just because the BBBoC say theres no semi pro doesnt make them right , your just being a sheep and not thinking for yourself , which is what the board prefer obviously .
But the fact remains if you only do something part time and get paid for it , wether it be boxing football , plumber or lapdancer if its part time its only semi pro , most "pro" boxers are only semi pro in realostic terms , and if it was football rather than boxing they would be termed exactly as such , just because your told to think that way doesnt mean you have to .
anyway pointless arguement that neither of us will back down from , like i said its a means to an end for me .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 19:20
by SAPFO
What does white collar pay up there then?
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 20 May 2011, 19:39
by damianhucker1
carlbcfc wrote:What does white collar pay up there then?
really depends on the individual , a ticket seller can earn more in white collar but an away opponent wont earn what a pro opponent would in the slightest , i have ex pros fight on my shows and they earn better due to the structure of ticket deals , there not really getting paid as well as they should be in the pros game, which is stupid, if there doing the work banging the tickets out then they deserve to be rewarded for it imo , as without them theres no show .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 02:44
by the truth
Bollocks , they're not " semi" pro stop trying to legitimise unlicensed boxing by sticking the word pro in the , silly c#nt
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 02:46
by the truth
the truth wrote:Bollocks , they're not " semi" pro stop trying to legitimise unlicensed boxing by sticking the word pro in there , silly c#nt
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 07:54
by damianhucker1
the truth wrote:Bollocks , they're not " semi" pro stop trying to legitimise unlicensed boxing by sticking the word pro in the , silly c#nt
your the silly pudendum as you completely ignored what i said about most "pros" actually being semi pro as their only part time , dont just pick the parts you want to criticise when you know the overall picture of what im saying is correct , you call yourself the truth yet you cant handle the truth , im not trying to legitimise anything , i already said its a means to an end both for myself and several of my fighters , are you telling me that a blue square north/south football team shouldnt exist because there not pro ? , talking Sh4t mate , simple .
Not arguing about it as your obviously very narrow minded and unwilling to listen to anyone else's opinion .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 07:57
by Jeff Thomas
My opinion is that it has it's place and only succeeds because of the failings of amateur boxing
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 07:58
by damianhucker1
Jeff Thomas wrote:My opinion is that it has it's place and only succeeds because of the failings of amateur boxing
Id say your not far off there mate , except that i feel that failing in the pro game by promotors and matchmakers also adds to the success .
Re: Semi pro question
Posted: 21 May 2011, 09:01
by bripez
Jeff Thomas wrote:My opinion is that it has it's place and only succeeds because of the failings of amateur boxing
It is the failings of both the amateur and pro codes.
In the meantime the administrators of both codes think that all is well in the world and that the recent growth of UFC / MMA / Semi-Pro / White Collar / Unlicensed is just a blip that will go away.
The growth of these areas shows that the is a definite market for competitive sports.