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Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:15
by RJP
Lots of people last week boldly stating that Degale would outclass Froch if they met this year.

Clearly very premature comments.

I had Degale a narrow winner tonight but don't think the result harms either fighter. Personally, I'd like to see a quick rematch whilst the rivalry is still 'hot'.

I get the feeling that Groves will fall just short at top level and, like Nigel Benn before him, this setback could be the making of Degale. I'd also tip Degale to take the fight to Groves more in the rematch as there were signs he could hurt him.

Great to finally see unbeaten, talented and ambitious fighters being matched in meaningful bouts. Long may it continue.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:20
by CiganoBoxer
RJP wrote:Lots of people last week boldly stating that Degale would outclass Froch .
lolololol

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:20
by Crease
DeGale would get hurt if he fought The Cobra.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:21
by crusader
Was it really "lots" of people saying that or was it just a couple of idiots? Can you post the link, I must have missed those comments.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:21
by jameswilson
I'd imagine stujones does. He absolutely loooooooves Carl Froch!

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:24
by RJP
crusader wrote:Was it really "lots" of people saying that or was it just a couple of idiots? Can you post the link, I must have missed those comments.
Lots might have been overstating it, but there were a few making daft comments to that effect.

Froch is a league above both lads right now - as you'd expect him to be.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:25
by lefthook82
I forgot how many ridicolous threads get started when someone unexpectedly loses

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:37
by RJP
lefthook82 wrote:I forgot how many ridicolous threads get started when someone unexpectedly loses
As ridiculous as predicting a 10 fight novice would outclass our most accomplished champion?

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:51
by whiskey
Degale could make a bit of a fight of it..

But you need 15,000 fans, dodgy judges and be prepared to have your face opened up like a tin of beans to actually 'beat' Froch.

I don't think Degale is cut from the right cloth to do it. Especially now Carl has started following McCracken's exact orders, he's evolving even more into an all-rounder, rather than a brute with a iron chin.

Besides, Degale just got mugged by a guy Froch bounced off the canvas with 18oz gloves and a head guard on.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:54
by lefthook82
RJP wrote:
lefthook82 wrote:I forgot how many ridicolous threads get started when someone unexpectedly loses
As ridiculous as predicting a 10 fight novice would outclass our most accomplished champion?

Why don't you find the offending thread and bump it so we can all laugh at the retard (i'm sure it realy is only 1 person) that said that 10 fight Degale could beat a guy who has beaten Dirrell, Pascal, Taylor, Abraham and gone life and death with kessler

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:59
by crusader
G0mez wrote:Degale could make a bit of a fight of it..

But you need 15,000 fans, dodgy judges and be prepared to have your face opened up like a tin of beans to actually 'beat' Froch.

I don't think Degale is cut from the right cloth to do it. Especially now Carl has started following McCracken's exact orders, he's evolving even more into an all-rounder, rather than a brute with a iron chin.

Besides, Degale just got mugged by a guy Froch bounced off the canvas with 18oz gloves and a head guard on.
Kessler didn't need dodgy judges to beat Froch fair and square :TU:

Degale and Groves would both be stopped easily by Froch.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:00
by RJP
lefthook82 wrote:
RJP wrote:
lefthook82 wrote:I forgot how many ridicolous threads get started when someone unexpectedly loses
As ridiculous as predicting a 10 fight novice would outclass our most accomplished champion?

Why don't you find the offending thread and bump it so we can all laugh at the retard (i'm sure it realy is only 1 person) that said that 10 fight Degale could beat a guy who has beaten Dirrell, Pascal, Taylor, Abraham and gone life and death with kessler
Because I can't be arsed :lol:

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:03
by Finn
If anyone thought degale could beat a world champ if they had met today they must have been stupid. But do i think he could beat a world champion within a year -the answer would be yes. A lack of world class sparring partners and poor tactics caused this loss. If booth had been training degale he would have won.

Groves looked world class and degale looked like he had world class talent but had no understanding of how to fight that fight.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:05
by RJP
kingfinn wrote:If anyone thought degale could beat a world champ if they had met today they must have been stupid. But do i think he could beat a world champion within a year -the answer would be yes. A lack of world class sparring partners and poor tactics caused this loss. If booth had been training degale he would have won.

Groves looked world class and degale looked like he had world class talent but had no understanding of how to fight that fight.
X2 on all counts

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:09
by jessi
kingfinn wrote:If anyone thought degale could beat a world champ if they had met today they must have been stupid. But do i think he could beat a world champion within a year -the answer would be yes. A lack of world class sparring partners and poor tactics caused this loss. If booth had been training degale he would have won.

Groves looked world class and degale looked like he had world class talent but had no understanding of how to fight that fight.
can everyone please take a chill pill, groves did not look world class, he just done enough to beat an average british champion !

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:12
by Finn
jessi wrote:
kingfinn wrote:If anyone thought degale could beat a world champ if they had met today they must have been stupid. But do i think he could beat a world champion within a year -the answer would be yes. A lack of world class sparring partners and poor tactics caused this loss. If booth had been training degale he would have won.

Groves looked world class and degale looked like he had world class talent but had no understanding of how to fight that fight.
can everyone please take a chill pill, groves did not look world class, he just done enough to beat an average british champion !
bollocks - degale had just absolutely destroyed a decent british champion.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:48
by Cas
Putting Degale in the ring with Froch at this stage? That would be murderous.

Degale is not proven.

Re: Do people still think Degale beats Froch?

Posted: 21 May 2011, 20:54
by leforge
Defail :OhYes: allegedly also defail :OhYes: