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What about all this white collar boxing, thats going on. Why don't they put some pro fights on the card? Or atleast some good amateurs , come on otherwise your forgetting, and making a circus and mockery of the real sport of boxing otherwise.

dunno if its the same as here in the UK but the ABA and th pro boxing board distance themselves from the white collar organisations could be the same over there

Adamj1987 wrote:dunno if its the same as here in the UK but the ABA and th pro boxing board distance themselves from the white collar organisations could be the same over there

No mate over here the white collar boxing goes under the ABA. Also over here pros an amutears fight on the same card. That's my whole point share some of the money, and don't be greedy. I'm under the belief, that over there, pros and amutears, don't fight on the same card. Is that correct?

hey mark i saw you were to fight michael van . what happened ?

westpeter wrote:hey mark i saw you were to fight michael van . what happened ?

I got sick & haven't trained for two weeks. I was getting paid in tickets. I think I was stressing me out, about selling them. Than I was asked to fight him a few days ago, because someone pulled out. The second time I was actualy going to get paid. I should got paid from the start.

Flogging tix to help promoter has been around for yonks. These days it seems to be a must to get a fight.
Not good

Da Voice wrote:Flogging tix to help promoter has been around for yonks. These days it seems to be a must to get a fight.
Not good

That's the way it is, you don't sell tickets you won't get a fight, or you will be in a fight, you more than likely won't win

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:Flogging tix to help promoter has been around for yonks. These days it seems to be a must to get a fight.
Not good

That's the way it is, you don't sell tickets you won't get a fight, or you will be in a fight, you more than likely won't win

Maybe Khoder/Mundine should be considered by Oz Boxing Hall of Fame for inventing it???

Da Voice wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:Flogging tix to help promoter has been around for yonks. These days it seems to be a must to get a fight.
Not good

That's the way it is, you don't sell tickets you won't get a fight, or you will be in a fight, you more than likely won't win

Maybe Khoder/Mundine should be considered by Oz Boxing Hall of Fame for inventing it???

I don't think they invented it. I dont know who did was it Barry Raff? I know his been doing it for years, does anyone know who did invent fighters selling tickets?

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote: That's the way it is, you don't sell tickets you won't get a fight, or you will be in a fight, you more than likely won't win

Maybe Khoder/Mundine should be considered by Oz Boxing Hall of Fame for inventing it???

I don't think they invented it. I dont know who did was it Barry Raff? I know his been doing it for years, does anyone know who did invent fighters selling tickets?

He might've. I been around since 1992 & never heard where combatants were paid by way of tickets, until Mundine shows

Da Voice wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:Maybe Khoder/Mundine should be considered by Oz Boxing Hall of Fame for inventing it???

I don't think they invented it. I dont know who did was it Barry Raff? I know his been doing it for years, does anyone know who did invent fighters selling tickets?

He might've. I been around since 1992 & never heard where combatants were paid by way of tickets, until Mundine shows

I haven't been around since 92, but pro boxing as I've always known it. If you don't sell tickets, no fight or your in a fight, you will probably lose, than even you win they wont give you the dicision. This is my whole point about this white collar boxing stuff, have a look at the ABA calendar there's heaps of it going on,and I heard the people doing it are making a fortune. If I knew people in the corporate world. I would be doing the same thing, but I would put real boxers on the card aswell. The sport of boxing will never, get bigger as long as fighters have to sell tickets, who wants to be a pro fighter? You would have to have rocks in your head. I wish I could come with away to change things, but I can't.

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote: I don't think they invented it. I dont know who did was it Barry Raff? I know his been doing it for years, does anyone know who did invent fighters selling tickets?

He might've. I been around since 1992 & never heard where combatants were paid by way of tickets, until Mundine shows

I haven't been around since 92, but pro boxing as I've always known it. If you don't sell tickets, no fight or your in a fight, you will probably lose, than even you win they wont give you the dicision. This is my whole point about this white collar boxing stuff, have a look at the ABA calendar there's heaps of it going on,and I heard the people doing it are making a fortune. If I knew people in the corporate world. I would be doing the same thing, but I would put real boxers on the card aswell. The sport of boxing will never, get bigger as long as fighters have to sell tickets, who wants to be a pro fighter? You would have to have rocks in your head. I wish I could come with away to change things, but I can't.

fenech and his carsalesman offsider put it on in the late ninetys, barry raff was paying cash in the early part of this century, i also got one of my boys $300 for a white collar night fight, by threatening to pull him out of his amateur bout, i have said it before, promoters can,t promote without fighters, and cash was paid up here the last promotion. all the best

patron wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Da Voice wrote:He might've. I been around since 1992 & never heard where combatants were paid by way of tickets, until Mundine shows

I haven't been around since 92, but pro boxing as I've always known it. If you don't sell tickets, no fight or your in a fight, you will probably lose, than even you win they wont give you the dicision. This is my whole point about this white collar boxing stuff, have a look at the ABA calendar there's heaps of it going on,and I heard the people doing it are making a fortune. If I knew people in the corporate world. I would be doing the same thing, but I T would put real boxers on the card aswell. The sport of boxing will never, get bigger tas long T as fighters have to sell tickets, who wants to be a pro fighter? You would have to thave rocks in your head. I wish I could come with away to change things, but I can't.

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fenech and his carsalesman offsider put it on in the late ninetys, barry raff was paying cash. in the early part of this century, i also got one of my boys $300 for a white collar night . fight, by threatening to pull him out of his amateur bout, i have said it before, promoters can,t promote without fighters, and cash was paid up here the last promotion. all the best

you can do that with a white collar boxing promoter, because they have the money. I hope you wouldn't try something like that with me, because I have F A money

i was resently talking to trainer from palmerston north,nz.the gym he trains at is a kick boxing gym.they were being offered $65 an hour for any trainer willing to prepare 8 novice prospects for one of these white collar shows. my advice to you mark is if you've got no money out of your many years of entertaining us ,jump on this merry go round start training these goats and ,get every cent out of them you can.good luck mate.

flogger wrote:i was resently talking to trainer from palmerston north,nz.the gym he trains at is a kick boxing gym.they were being offered $65 an hour for any trainer willing to prepare 8 novice prospects for one of these white collar shows. my advice to you mark is if you've got no money out of your many years of entertaining us ,jump on this merry go round start training these goats and ,get every cent out of them you can.good luck mate.

Funny you say that cause I already train a few people. The people that I've got have never fought and more than likely never will.

Mark pawsey wrote:

flogger wrote:i was resently talking to trainer from palmerston north,nz.the gym he trains at is a kick boxing gym.they were being offered $65 an hour for any trainer willing to prepare 8 novice prospects for one of these white collar shows. my advice to you mark is if you've got no money out of your many years of entertaining us ,jump on this merry go round start training these goats and ,get every cent out of them you can.good luck mate.

Funny you say that cause I already train a few people. The people that I've got have never fought and more than likely never will.

Might never fight, but will help if they encounter problems in the street/pub

flogger wrote:i was resently talking to trainer from palmerston north,nz.the gym he trains at is a kick boxing gym.they were being offered $65 an hour for any trainer willing to prepare 8 novice prospects for one of these white collar shows. my advice to you mark is if you've got no money out of your many years of entertaining us ,jump on this merry go round start training these goats and ,get every cent out of them you can.good luck mate.

I see! So monkey see's monkey do hey! Nice vicious cycle you've appeared to adopted there.....forgive me, but i'm glad mentality like that hasn't quite taken over the world yet, otherwise we'd all be farked.

Mark, my suggestion is be the guy that changes the small shows, come up with an idea that hasn't been used, or modify 1 for the better.

Theres no point in being the guy screaming about it, your passion should see you through. It will come

Mark pawsey wrote:

patron wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote: I haven't been around since 92, but pro boxing as I've always known it. If you don't sell tickets, no fight or your in a fight, you will probably lose, than even you win they wont give you the dicision. This is my whole point about this white collar boxing stuff, have a look at the ABA calendar there's heaps of it going on,and I heard the people doing it are making a fortune. If I knew people in the corporate world. I would be doing the same thing, but I T would put real boxers on the card aswell. The sport of boxing will never, get bigger tas long T as fighters have to sell tickets, who wants to be a pro fighter? You would have to thave rocks in your head. I wish I could come with away to change things, but I can't.

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fenech and his carsalesman offsider put it on in the late ninetys, barry raff was paying cash. in the early part of this century, i also got one of my boys $300 for a white collar night . fight, by threatening to pull him out of his amateur bout, i have said it before, promoters can,t promote without fighters, and cash was paid up here the last promotion. all the best

you can do that with a white collar boxing promoter, because they have the money. I hope you wouldn't try something like that with me, because I have F A money

mark, i don,t think you would try too dud one of your kind, battlers should look after each other, i was in a position where a bit of bluff worked, 2 other trainers where willing to back me up,apparently trainers now put theirselves before their fighters, all the best,

patron wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

patron wrote:.
fenech and his carsalesman offsider put it on in the late ninetys, barry raff was paying cash. T in the early part of this century, i also got one of my boys $300 for a white collar night . fight, by threatening to pull him out of his amateur bout, i have said it before, promoters can,t promote without fighters, and cash was paid up here the last promotion. all the best

you can do that with a white collar boxing promoter, because they have the money. I hope you wouldn't try something like that with me, because I have F A money

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mark, i don,t think you would try too dud one of your kind, battlers should look after each other, i was in a position where a bit of bluff worked, 2 other trainers where willing to back me up,apparently trainers now put theirselves before their fighters, all the best,

. I like the part when you say trainers put themselves before fighters. This comment might stir some shit, like a few other comments. I've Put on this forum, here goes. I was training with a bloke. He was doing a promotion, and he wouldn't put me on the promotion, because i couldn't sell enough tickets. Than he was going to put someone on, that I beat. Than his opponent pulled out, So my trainer called me while. I was at work, so i couldn't talk. I tried to call him the next day, couldn't get hold of him, so I sent a text, no answer. A few days past, So I called him, he said you took to long to get back to us, so we got someone else. I'm abit out spoken, with some of the things, I say. Its not like I back stab but, because if I'm not happy with someone, I tell them, so it doesnt matter. If I tell everyone about it. This comment might result in phone call, or text coming my way. I can handle that,as long as it doesn't result in a bullet coming my way, but I don't think it will ha ha.

flogger wrote:i was resently talking to trainer from palmerston north,nz.the gym he trains at is a kick boxing gym.they were being offered $65 an hour for any trainer willing to prepare 8 novice prospects for one of these white collar shows. my advice to you mark is if you've got no money out of your many years of entertaining us ,jump on this merry go round start training these goats and ,get every cent out of them you can.good luck mate.

I have to say, like the name flogger. Flogger has alot of meanings. I like all of them. so why do you use that name? Was it given to you? Or did you give it to yourself?

Luv to see white collar elimination bouts between Noel Sharpe (Vic) Tom Hunter (SA) John Hogg (Qld) & Craig Waller (NSW) - Winner takes all