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Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 10:36
by STP
Lets have your scores.....
Watson-3,6,7,8,10,11,12
Eubank-2,5,9
Even-1,4
Watson-117
Eubank-113
Disgraceful.... Watson did everything right, focussed on the body for 5 rounds before coming up to the head and schooling Eubank with timed counters, the body punches caught up with Eubank in the last 3 rounds as Watson's neat combos came off, it was the perfect fight from Watson to deal with the highly awkward speedster he had across him... he edged forward without being caught and got closer and closer to Chris, never off balance as Eubanks was constantly...
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 11:07
by coghaugen11
Laughable. I had Eubank winning by six rounds. He clearly won the first five rounds, clearly won the seventh and clearly won the ninth. Watson landed nothing of note in 10 and 11, despite Eubank being there for the taking because his legs had gone and given out on him. I gave them to Eubank because he actually landed shots, albeit off-balance ones. Watson just plodded forward all night - he did not deserve a rematch and only got one because of the public outcry. The difference in footwork was substantial, just watch the first five rounds with no sound and watch the feet only - I dare you! Eubank showed far superior subtle skill in this fight. Just watch the seventh round with no sound and count the number of punches Eubank makes Watson miss - by barely moving! And some of the short shots Eubank was getting off in this fight were sensational, in about the fourth, fifth and ninth rounds; rocking the strong Watson. You need your head tested if you feel Watson deserved this decision, let alone that it was some kind of scandal????
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 11:18
by Captain Hook
STP wrote:Lets have your scores.....
Watson-3,6,7,8,10,11,12
Eubank-2,5,9
Even-1,4
Watson-117
Eubank-113
Disgraceful.... Watson did everything right, focussed on the body for 5 rounds before coming up to the head and schooling Eubank with timed counters, the body punches caught up with Eubank in the last 3 rounds as Watson's neat combos came off, it was the perfect fight from Watson to deal with the highly awkward speedster he had across him... he edged forward without being caught and got closer and closer to Chris, never off balance as Eubanks was constantly...
You say "let's have your scores" like it was at the weekend and we've still got them to hand!
Watson winning 7 rounds? Don't recall that
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 11:22
by coghaugen11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GeEuUvZW7c
Eubank was running away with it. How anyone could say otherwise I have no single clue.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 11:33
by Jeff Thomas
I'd need to watch it again but I thought the point of the rematch was how hurt he was and close to exhaustion?
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 12:11
by apophenic
nor me....as clear as day imo.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 12:22
by mrbassie
I did score this a while ago, can't remember precisely what my scores were but I did have Eubank winning by at least a couple of points.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 12:37
by Old bones Ian
Its always hard to revisit a close fight, when you know who won. Its hard not to be biased to one boxer
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 14:28
by STP
coghaugen11 wrote:Laughable. I had Eubank winning by six rounds. He clearly won the first five rounds, clearly won the seventh and clearly won the ninth. Watson landed nothing of note in 10 and 11, despite Eubank being there for the taking because his legs had gone and given out on him. I gave them to Eubank because he actually landed shots, albeit off-balance ones. Watson just plodded forward all night - he did not deserve a rematch and only got one because of the public outcry. The difference in footwork was substantial, just watch the first five rounds with no sound and watch the feet only - I dare you! Eubank showed far superior subtle skill in this fight. Just watch the seventh round with no sound and count the number of punches Eubank makes Watson miss - by barely moving! And some of the short shots Eubank was getting off in this fight were sensational, in about the fourth, fifth and ninth rounds; rocking the strong Watson. You need your head tested if you feel Watson deserved this decision, let alone that it was some kind of scandal????
Weird.... Wow
You clearly have no idea how to score a boxing match my friend...
Every punch Watson landed was clean, hard, accurate, timed and thrown correct... most punches Eubank landed were not clean, not hard and not accurate they just suprised Watson through the poor technique employed....
He out landed Chris with body shots alone in the first 5, then took him to school for the rest of the fight with timing and counters... If you take the Eubank goggles off you'll see that for 5 missed punches Eubank winged Watson landed a clean, hard, accurate, timed and correct blow to the body or head... he also out worked Eubank when no punches were thrown/landed by continuing to double the left at him and rolling his shoulders constantly...
Every boxing pundit, every boxing columnist had Watson a clear winner by 4-5pts -are they all wrong? Many gave Watson r2 and r4 and Eubank r11 and EVERYONE gave Watson 3,6,7,8,10
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 31 May 2011, 16:09
by Greg Nicholas
CE was catching or evading the jab, prob was when CE dipped MW had his short chopping right and when CE missed MW had a corkscrew uppercut downstairs , MW also hooked him off alot.
1) 10-9 CE
2) 10-10
3) 10-9 MW
4) 10-10
5) 10-9 CE
6) 10-9 MW
7) 10-9 CE
8) 10-9 MW
9) 10-9 MW
10) 10-9 MW
11) 10-9 MW
12) 10-9 MW
TOT) 7-3-2 MW
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 01:53
by hitman_hatton1
King Geedorah wrote:I had it 113-115 for Watson. My thoughts are
Here.
It was not a robbery by any stretch of the imagination. It was a close fight.
yeah close fight.
think eubank nicks quite a few rds in this one.
where watson wins his rds fairly conclusive.
had it a drew when i scored it a few yrs back.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 03:45
by coghaugen11
Guys, hello??? The Challenger has to take it from the Champion. That's how it works. This wasn't a non-title 12-rounder. Eubank was the champ, and Watson, if he wanted the title so badly, should've atleast attempted to take it. He didn't. He used plodding footwork, a poker face, no emotion or passion in his work, no adrenalin. There is absolutely no-fuckin-way that Michael deserved that belt after a performance like that. Eubank was even there for the taking in the 10th (admitted by Eubank himself), after his legs had clearly gone with exhaustion, and Watson just didn't take him - didn't attempt to. Eubank was the boss (esp first five, bagged clearly) and had no multi-punch combinations to contend with, forced Watson back whenever he chose to right through even when he was gone at the end. I pity your bias, it's not even subjective it's clouded crap - even 20 years on. I pity you.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 04:00
by coghaugen11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7jJgQw6i2M
9:10 in - Steven Bunce hang your head in shame son
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 04:24
by crusader
Do you happen to have Eubank locked in a shed somewhere?
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 07:04
by STP
coghaugen11 wrote:Guys, hello??? The Challenger has to take it from the Champion. That's how it works. This wasn't a non-title 12-rounder. Eubank was the champ, and Watson, if he wanted the title so badly, should've atleast attempted to take it. He didn't. He used plodding footwork, a poker face, no emotion or passion in his work, no adrenalin. There is absolutely no-fuckin-way that Michael deserved that belt after a performance like that. Eubank was even there for the taking in the 10th (admitted by Eubank himself), after his legs had clearly gone with exhaustion, and Watson just didn't take him - didn't attempt to. Eubank was the boss (esp first five, bagged clearly) and had no multi-punch combinations to contend with, forced Watson back whenever he chose to right through even when he was gone at the end. I pity your bias, it's not even subjective it's clouded crap - even 20 years on. I pity you.
Your words are convincing, but thats all they are...words.
The actions of the fight on tv or vid footage is what counts, and 99% of us had Watson clear victor via wide chunk of pts... It speaks for itself.
Ta ta
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 07:22
by Roco
I thought Eubank got many favourable decisions during his career, but don't think this was one of them.
Watson was mostly landing short and out of range, but it looked good from the back of the arena.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 01 Jun 2011, 08:25
by Final round
Talking of robbery's Joe Bugner is still walking around a free man, it's about time Scotland Yard got on the case.
Re: Revisiting the Watson-Eubank 1 ROBBERY
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 14:23
by whicker
coghaugen11 wrote:Guys, hello??? The Challenger has to take it from the Champion. That's how it works. This wasn't a non-title 12-rounder. Eubank was the champ, and Watson, if he wanted the title so badly, should've atleast attempted to take it. He didn't. He used plodding footwork, a poker face, no emotion or passion in his work, no adrenalin. There is absolutely no-fuckin-way that Michael deserved that belt after a performance like that. .
thats not how it works.
If a fighter fights best in a round, he gets that round. Simple. Nothing to do with who is the current champion etc.