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British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 15:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Rendall Munroe
7. (7.) Matthew Macklin
8. (8.) John Murray
9. (9.) Ryan Rhodes
10. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
11. (11.) Matthew Hatton
12. (12.) Brian Magee (Irish)
13. (13.) Darren Barker
14. (14.) Kell Brook
15. (15.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
16. (16.) Ola Afolabi
17. (17.) Stuart Hall
18. (18.) Stephen Smith
19. (19.) John Simpson
20. (20.) Andy Lee (Irish)
21. (NE.) George Groves
22. (21.) Jason Booth
23. (22.) Kevin Mitchell
24. (23.) Gavin Rees
25. (NE.) Prince Arron
26. (24.) James DeGale
27. (26.) Ashley Theophane
28. (27.) Anthony Crolla
29. (25.) Danny McIntosh
30. (28.) Stephen Foster
Out - (29.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
Out - (30.) Dereck Chisora
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 15:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 15:01
by leforge
June 5th where has the list been?
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 15:02
by Adamj1987
i'd have to have rees above mitchell based on him being an ex-world titlist at a higher weight than he is campaigning at now and based off mitchell and rees last fights
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 18:48
by Camcas
I know im going to get criticised but id have Khan and Haye above Froch
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 12:21
by Horse
leforge wrote:June 5th where has the list been?
I was away for a few days, so I couldn't post it.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 12:52
by bluenoseshf
Camcas wrote:I know im going to get criticised but id have Khan and Haye above Froch
Im not gna criticise you im just going to remind you to take you medication.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 12:58
by LeedsLad
I could accept someone placing Khan above Froch but Haye would be one hell of a stretch.
He's been very inactive over the past couple of years and has kinda skirted around the top fighters at HW before finally fighting Klitschko. Plus, a fair few of his better wins are over old men, two of them never fought again, Harrison is/was a journeyman and Mormeck hasn't done much of note. Enzo has been KTFO three times since by decent but not exceptional fighters.
Froch has fought six world class opponents in a row and defeated five of them.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 12:58
by Horse
Adamj1987 wrote:i'd have to have rees above mitchell based on him being an ex-world titlist at a higher weight than he is campaigning at now and based off mitchell and rees last fights
Rees will move above Mitchell next month.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 12:59
by Yes We Can
Prince Aaron in above Crolla????
Rees probably has to slide in above Kevin Mitchell on activity alone. Ignoring the fact he now holds a respectable belt at the same weight.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 13:45
by Horse
Camcas wrote:I know im going to get criticised but id have Khan and Haye above Froch
If Haye beats Klitschko or Khan beats Bradley/Judah then they have a good chance of overtaking Froch, but at the moment I think Froch is the clear No. 1.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 14:06
by whiskey
Camcas wrote:I know im going to get criticised but id have Khan and Haye above Froch
Nothing wrong with that.
Explain how though.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 15:30
by Newport Daz
Personally for me there's no competition for number 1 slot. Haye and Khan are so close you can argue either way for 2 or 3. Being honest if Haye beats Wlad i'm still not sure that would be good enough to put him number 1. Froch's run is unsurpassed at any weight by any boxer currently fighting. That imo keeps him at no1.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 15:33
by Dioufy
This list is now void - where the feck have you been, Horse? I've been waiting here, online, non-stop, for 6 days now. Just not good enough. Hang that horse-shaped napper in shape.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 15:37
by NazNaci1
Groves and Arron, nice additions, I might have them slightly higher due to the last wins but, again just nit-picking.
Fine list, not too much wrong with that at all, mate. As usual
Froch clear No1.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 15:43
by Adamj1987
Horse wrote:Adamj1987 wrote:i'd have to have rees above mitchell based on him being an ex-world titlist at a higher weight than he is campaigning at now and based off mitchell and rees last fights
Rees will move above Mitchell next month.

Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 15:45
by Camcas
G0mez wrote:Camcas wrote:I know im going to get criticised but id have Khan and Haye above Froch
Nothing wrong with that.
Explain how though.
Froch hasn't dominated his opponents the same way the others have with the exception of Pascal and Abraham and he lost albeit to a world class fighter, but Froch has been fighting at a much higher standard so im not sure. Ive now changed my mind i think Froch should be top, but in my mind he isn't the best boxer so it depends how you judge it
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:09
by Dan Dares
Nice one Horse
My only thoughts are John Murray so high at 8th?
And try and get it up on time please

Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:10
by Dan Dares
Dan Dares wrote:Nice one Horse
My only thoughts are John Murray so high at 8th?
And try and get it up on time please

although i suppose you were waiting for the Froch and Rees fights.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:28
by Horse
funtime wrote:Prince Aaron in above Crolla????
Arron's win against Webb is better than any win that Crolla has in my opinion, and Arron got that win last month whereas Crolla hasn't fought since February.
Crolla is scheduled to fight on June 18th, so if his opponent is decent then he has a good chance of overtaking Arron.
funtime wrote:Rees probably has to slide in above Kevin Mitchell on activity alone. Ignoring the fact he now holds a respectable belt at the same weight.
Rees will move up the rankings next month due to his win against Murray.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:41
by Horse
Newport Daz wrote:Personally for me there's no competition for number 1 slot. Haye and Khan are so close you can argue either way for 2 or 3. Being honest if Haye beats Wlad i'm still not sure that would be good enough to put him number 1. Froch's run is unsurpassed at any weight by any boxer currently fighting. That imo keeps him at no1.
Wladimir is the No. 1 ranked heavyweight and a 5-10 ranked P4P fighter. A win against him would be much better than any single win that Froch has.
I am not saying Haye beating Wladimir would put him above Froch, but it would be such a big win that he would have to be given strong consideration for the top spot.
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:44
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:This list is now void - where the feck have you been, Horse? I've been waiting here, online, non-stop, for 6 days now. Just not good enough. Hang that horse-shaped napper in shape.
I am sorry, Dioufy. :(
Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 16:55
by Horse
bengulnaci1 wrote:Groves and Arron, nice additions, I might have them slightly higher due to the last wins but, again just nit-picking.
They have only just entered the rankings for the first time, so I didn't want to put them in too high to begin with.
bengulnaci1 wrote:Fine list, not too much wrong with that at all, mate. As usual
Froch clear No1.

Re: British Top 30 P4P June 2011
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 15:47
by Horse
Dan Dares wrote:Nice one Horse
My only thoughts are John Murray so high at 8th?
He is an undefeated European champion with 2 defences, as well as being a Lonsdale belt holder. I don't think many of the fighters below him have much of a case for being above him, maybe Rhodes, but that is about it.
Dan Dares wrote:And try and get it up on time please

I will try.
Dan Dares wrote:although i suppose you were waiting for the Froch and Rees fights.
The results of those fights will be taken into account in next month's rankings.