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15 rounds between a man who trained like Hercules, & another who looked like one.

i take marciano in this one

Think:

Shavers
Foreman
Cooney

Cooney?

Even Shavers came at the end of Nortons road, when he was done.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Even Shavers came at the end of Nortons road, when he was done.

It's overstated that he couldn't take a punch. Foreman and Shavers knock out most with the shots he took. To make it fair using the Cooney version of Norton, Marciano will have to take him on out of his casket.

Rock wasn't usually a very fast starter either. I don't see an early ending and Norton could do some good work with his jab. But I imagine Marciano would get his head in his chest and work the body. I think kenny goes the distance though. Give me Marciano 9-6ish, with a lot of blood on his face.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Even Shavers came at the end of Nortons road, when he was done.

It's overstated that he couldn't take a punch. Foreman and Shavers knock out most with the shots he took. To make it fair using the Cooney version of Norton, Marciano will have to take him on out of his casket.

Rock wasn't usually a very fast starter either. I don't see an early ending and Norton could do some good work with his jab. But I imagine Marciano would get his head in his chest and work the body. I think kenny goes the distance though. Give me Marciano 9-6ish, with a lot of blood on his face.

I agree with you Saad. I think Marciano might taste the canvas early on, but win on points.

Just add Norton's mug to this list....

marciano is too crazily determined for norton.
relatively easy late round ko for the rock ...

Rocky takes it sometime between the 5th and 9th rounds of a competitve and entertaining fight.

Dont forget Jose Luis Garcia.
July-2-1970.
There is a press photograph of Ken Norton face down on the canvas.
It looked like Norton had fallen through the roof.
If he was any closer to the canvas he would have been under it.
That photograph can be seen in one of the newspaper articles
at newspaperarchive.com
published the day after the Garcia-Norton fight.

Norton clobbered Garcia at the second time of asking. I agree with those who say his ability to handle a puncher is under-rated.

Not sure he could live with Marciano, though.

The key for Norton is getting beyond the early rounds. Marciano came on stronger rather than starting quickly.

I'd expect Norton to egt through the early stages and then put up an amazing fight. Lots of swings in momentum but Marciano eventually getting his man late or on points.

Ezzard wrote:The key for Norton is getting beyond the early rounds. Marciano came on stronger rather than starting quickly.

I'd expect Norton to egt through the early stages and then put up an amazing fight. Lots of swings in momentum but Marciano eventually getting his man late or on points.

This sounds good to me. I dont really see this as being an easy night for Marciano, as some do.

Norton would probably get chopped down early by Dempsey, Louis and Liston but I think Marciano's slower start would let Ken get a foot in the door.

Would be a great fight and one that would allow Marciano to showcase his great abilities.

Lennox Lewis - Norton would be a good fight too if Ken sees round 4 then Lewis would be in a real fight.

Marciano would have him, I'm certain about this one. Norton hasn't go the power to bully Marciano and he hasn't go the skill to outfox him.
Marciano by late stoppage.

Norton would give Marciano a very tough fight, and early on I see him doing lots of damage to Rocky with his jab, but I agree with the general concensus that Ken gradually gets broken down and taken out late. But Marciano would be in a real fight and probably even tastes the canvas a few times . . .he never fought a prime, big athletic HW who had a jab like a peak Norton..

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"]Norton clobbered Garcia at the second time of asking. I agree with those who say his ability to handle a puncher is under-rated.

Garcia was on the downhill slide when he fought Norton the second time. He had lost 5 of his last 10 fights, and had been knocked out in 4 of the 5 losses.

On the 'Champions Forever' video, Norton said there were a few times when he had a guy in trouble, but backed off. If he did that with Marciano, he'd be in big trouble.

Norton wins by tko due to cuts or decision.

theone wrote:Norton wins by tko due to cuts or decision.

I agree, but only In the Bizzaro world.

BoxBuzz wrote:

theone wrote:Norton wins by tko due to cuts or decision.

I agree, but only In the Bizzaro world.

By the statement above you obviously believe that prime Norton would have zero chance of defeating Marciano either way I stated, yet:
•Norton was bigger stronger and more athletic than any fighter Marciano ever fought.
•Marciano, "Suzy-q" punch on the not so iron-jawed Walcott aside, Marciano usually needed tons of punches to ko his opponents; he was NOT the puncher Foreman or shavers was.
•Norton outboxed Ali twice and almost did the same to prime Holmes.

Picking Marciano to win is one thing. Implying Norton had no shot is just ridiculous.

I would agree that every time two good fighters walk into the ring anything can happen.

I would also say that the pictures above would indicate that perhaps Rocky could "one shot bang" with the best of them.

If they were to fight 100 times...... They'd be knackered.

keithmoonhangover wrote:If they were to fight 100 times...... They'd be knackered.

But I'd still bet on Marciano winning 70 of the fights. Honestly.