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Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:00
by keithmoonhangover
I know this is a bit like the first rule of Fight Club, but.....
Any of you guys ever been asked to lose, take a dive, take it easy or been offered money?
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:01
by Jeff Thomas
Good luck with that one
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:03
by keithmoonhangover
Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:06
by Andy
Any week in particular ?
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:36
by Jeff Thomas
keithmoonhangover wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 12:41
by keithmoonhangover
Jeff Thomas wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?


Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 14:07
by damianhucker1
well El Maachii apparantly has been asked early in his career , read that on here when his name was first being banded about .
Of course as a journeyman the guys doing that know that in general even if its a fight they can win they usually wont for fear of not getting the job next time , they have bills to pay like anyone else , but youll be unlikely to hear of many of them being Told to lose i reckon , just a kind of unwritten rule , but certain circumstances will allow the "opponent " a bit of room if he does win , such as an accidental k.o .lol . or i could be way off the mark .
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 14:16
by clunkclik
I have known a few happen.......
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 14:21
by Londonirish
damianhucker1 wrote:
Of course as a journeyman the guys doing that know that in general even if its a fight they can win they usually wont for fear of not getting the job next time , they have bills to pay like anyone else , but youll be unlikely to hear of many of them being Told to lose i reckon , just a kind of unwritten rule , but certain circumstances will allow the "opponent " a bit of room if he does win , such as an accidental k.o .lol . .
This happens abit, but most wont get KO'd as they want work the following week....
clunkclik wrote:I have known a few happen.......
Same here

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 14:51
by dondada
keithmoonhangover wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?
Jeff, come clean.
Admit it - there were certain fights you were asked to win and you just couldn't bring yourself to do it

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 15:16
by keithmoonhangover
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?
Jeff, come clean.
Admit it - there were certain fights you were asked to win and you just couldn't bring yourself to do it


Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 18:32
by Jeff Thomas
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Good luck with that one

Thanks mate. Are you saying "No comment" then Jeff?
Jeff, come clean.
Admit it - there were certain fights you were asked to win and you just couldn't bring yourself to do it

Too charitable I reckon
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 12:01
by Coco
If the matching is correct you would not need to pay someone to dive.
I was never asked and don't know anyone that was
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 12:04
by keithmoonhangover
Coco wrote:If the matching is correct you would not need to pay someone to dive.
I was never asked and don't know anyone that was
Fair play mate.

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 12:13
by Des1
Its like an unsaid rule for some, the journeyman or 'opponent know why their there mainly
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 08:22
by matko
Im not 100% but by the looks of it i think someone may of asked Audley Harrison??

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 09:01
by grannyman
Not sure about boxers being paid to dive, but I guess it's harder to prove a doctor being paid to dive in.
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 11:44
by gobbles
grannyman wrote:
Not sure about boxers being paid to dive, but I guess it's harder to prove a doctor being paid to dive in.
Because he had Khan in such trouble, didn't he?
Hasn't that ridiculous train hit the buffers yet? It hardly was to Khan's advantage to rob him of a decent finish
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 11:48
by dondada
grannyman wrote:
Not sure about boxers being paid to dive, but I guess it's harder to prove a doctor being paid to dive in.
Aye. I heard the doctor was also one of the driving forces behind 9/11 too.
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 11:55
by reggaereggae
Jake La MOtta
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Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 12:17
by Londonirish
MachoMan09 wrote:The fight that jumps to mind is Gomez vs P. McDonagh. Not because I think Mikey threw the fight, I don't, but a lot of people did think that at the time and still do.
From 7.40 im one of them that Do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNUjIWLarPM
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 12:24
by Final round
reggaereggae wrote:Jake La MOtta
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Sonny Liston?
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 17:20
by kamicazze
I know of a journeyman who was fighting away who got offered an additional £600 to go down and stay down in a certain round. Apparently these werent the sorts of guys you wanted to say no to. For obvious reasons i won't name him
Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 17:25
by CiganoBoxer
I was paid to lose a pub pool match once ...does that count ??

Re: Have Any Pros or Former Pros Been Asked To Lose?
Posted: 10 Jun 2011, 17:32
by keithmoonhangover
mrpedigree wrote:I was paid to lose a pub pool match once ...does that count ??

I would refer you to section A
http://www.epa.org.uk/wrules.php
Now I want you to write 'I must not lose a pool game on purpose', 100 times on the board.