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I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?

nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?

I really want Ryan to win, but I think he's in for a very painfull night.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?

I really want Ryan to win, but I think he's in for a very painfull night.

From a tequila hangover maybe

nelsoninfour wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?

I really want Ryan to win, but I think he's in for a very painfull night.

From a tequila hangover maybe

I hope so mate.

Never wanted a fighter to win a world title so much as this one

saturday_kid wrote:Never wanted a fighter to win a world title so much as this one

nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?

It's amazing to think that back in 1997 Rhodes was the 'spice boy' of british boxing and at 21 years old nearly beat Otis Grant for the wbo middleweight title.

Now at 34 and four losses later he has the chance to finally win a world title and he's got a good chance against Alvarez, would be great to see him do it and i think if he can survive the early stages he'll have a good chance to take Saul out in the final third of the fight. Saying that though in terms of what's better for Boxing Alvarez needs to win and continue to become a future superstar of the sport.

One thing to note though is that Rhodes has never lost as a Light Middleweight.

nelsoninfour wrote:

saturday_kid wrote:Never wanted a fighter to win a world title so much as this one

this is a massive fight !!!!! really think ryan can become WBC world champ alverez will not be able to cope with his skill or power AND THE NEW

ryan will get stopped.

Is Alvarez better than a peak Otis Grant at this stage of his career? i dont think so, and as has already been pointed out, Ryan ran him close that night. Although RR has had his dips,noticably Lee Blundell and (massive for the weight) Matthews, i think these were more a mental thing rather than physical, RR seemed to be goin nowhere fast. Think he turned the corner v Lockett, while still at the higher weight showed more steel. Most importantly i feel RR really believes that a world title is his destiny and far from being put off from travelling abroad thinks it will make the win all the more memorable.

If Alvarez was a young British world champ promoted by allegedly defending against a guy with Rhodes's record from Mexico who had boxed once for a WBO title 13 years ago, the very people who are saying Rhodes might win would call it a terrible mismatch and a disgrace that Warren can get away with such things.
And that is before you factor in things like altitude and that it is a WBC title fight featuring Sulaiman's young star taking place in Mexico.
Sadly, Rhodes doesn't have a chance and 8-1 on his winning by stoppage looks quite skinny to me. I'm sure you will find many better 8-1 shots at Ascot this week.

gobbles wrote:If Alvarez was a young British world champ promoted by allegedly defending against a guy with Rhodes's record from Mexico who had boxed once for a WBO title 13 years ago, the very people who are saying Rhodes might win would call it a terrible mismatch and a disgrace that Warren can get away with such things.
And that is before you factor in things like altitude and that it is a WBC title fight featuring Sulaiman's young star taking place in Mexico.
Sadly, Rhodes doesn't have a chance and 8-1 on his winning by stoppage looks quite skinny to me. I'm sure you will find many better 8-1 shots at Ascot this week.

What price will you give me then deep pockets???

manno wrote:Is Alvarez better than a peak Otis Grant at this stage of his career? i dont think so, and as has already been pointed out, Ryan ran him close that night. Although RR has had his dips,noticably Lee Blundell and (massive for the weight) Matthews, i think these were more a mental thing rather than physical, RR seemed to be goin nowhere fast. Think he turned the corner v Lockett, while still at the higher weight showed more steel. Most importantly i feel RR really believes that a world title is his destiny and far from being put off from travelling abroad thinks it will make the win all the more memorable.

Very good analysis of ryan career. Ryan is a big light middle weight also and has never lost at this weight.

really hope ryan does this nd think the odds shud be a lot closer. gud luck ryan.

2smoothdalt wrote:really hope ryan does this nd think the odds shud be a lot closer. gud luck ryan.

NOOOO!! leave the odds where they are and we'll make a few quid Dalton!!

I don't usually gamble but i might for this one. Can someone give me the best odds around for a Rhodes win and rhodes by stoppage.

Alvarez has got a title way too soon. If he couldn't take out an undersized and fairly ordinary Matthew Hatton a bigger slicker more talented and experienced Rhodes could box rings around him. I can easily imagine Ryan making him look silly and clumsy and taking a wide decision.

Shirow wrote:I don't usually gamble but i might for this one. Can someone give me the best odds around for a Rhodes win and rhodes by stoppage.

Alvarez has got a title way too soon. If he couldn't take out an undersized and fairly ordinary Matthew Hatton a bigger slicker more talented and experienced Rhodes could box rings around him. I can easily imagine Ryan making him look silly and clumsy and taking a wide decision.

Check out www.oddschecker.com though gobbles may be offering bigger odds on here watch this space. 8-1. Best I have seen

Can't see Rhodes winning this one, though I hope he can do it.

I'm not massive on Alvarez, but inactivity from Rhodes and lets be honest, fighting at domestic/Euro level for several years (regardless what ranking his opposition was) won't help him one bit. Respect to him, he deserves his shot and he's a consummate pro, but I can see a painful night and a mid-rounds defeat.

A young fresh champion on the up, home support, in the heat doesn't bode well and I do think Rhodes' power isn't what people think, he's more a decent puncher at a higher level, not a big hitter so I don't give him a punchers chance.

I give Rhodes a very real chance of springing the "upset" here.

saturday_kid wrote:Never wanted a fighter to win a world title so much as this one

I couldn't word that better myself!! COMMON RYAN!!!

Yorkshiresuperstar wrote:Can't see Rhodes winning this one, though I hope he can do it.

I'm not massive on Alvarez, but inactivity from Rhodes and lets be honest, fighting at domestic/Euro level for several years (regardless what ranking his opposition was) won't help him one bit. Respect to him, he deserves his shot and he's a consummate pro, but I can see a painful night and a mid-rounds defeat.

A young fresh champion on the up, home support, in the heat doesn't bode well and I do think Rhodes' power isn't what people think, he's more a decent puncher at a higher level, not a big hitter so I don't give him a punchers chance.

Fair analyisis York ss but do you think Alvarez is world class yet? Think Hatton exposed him a little. Dont get me wrong even 18 months down the line i think RR would have started to slip too much and Alvarez' star would be burning way too bright to give RR a chance. When you talk about RR mixing in domestic and euro at best i consider Hatton,with all due respect a lower level european fighter. Also interesting is the comparisons between Hatton n RR when predicting a result - MH more durable tho lighter, RR Bigger puncher tho a tad more fragile.....

Bomber 1 wrote:

saturday_kid wrote:Never wanted a fighter to win a world title so much as this one

I couldn't word that better myself!! COMMON RYAN!!!

Come on Ryan x

He would love it and so would I!

Save your money. Rhodes is gonna get beat up.

It's interesting how several people are criticizing Alvarez for one average showing against Hatton (a fight that Alvarez throughly dominated), yet don't seem to think Rhodes' lossess to Blundell, Matthews, and Lockett are relevant. Also, too much is being made out of Rhodes' unbeaten streak at 154; he has defeated only one fighter worth mentioning at the weight and he was given a relatively competitive bout by Vincent Vuma.

I think Canelo would have a bit more than Rhodes no matter where the bout was held, but with the bout taking place in Mexico, Alvarez might get an extra edge from the local support and favorable officiating.