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if it goes past one i can deffo tell which way this fight will go :!:

people are expecting haye to be slipping the jab with big overhand right's. but i think as displayed against valuev & even harrison haye gives ground & tries to catch them coming on, rather then be jack dempsey/tyson & rip into them were his fragile jaw is at risk.
also wlad might make the mistake of seeing haye give ground & invite him in which is very dangerous early on as haye tends to put all his eggs in one basket.manny steward as hinted tactics which you have to think is reverse psychology.

people talk on the brewster & sanders defeat's & forget brewster took a kicking of which haye would be incapable of coming back from as barret had him on a knee from a clip & sanders was a very unorthodox fast punching southpaw who was underestimated by the camp not realising the guy was battering rahman in good fashion until gassing due to flying in stateside from s.africa in little time & you all saw lennox make the same mistake.

i will back haye for the first 3rds but it could be like hide v vitali.

p.s i will be supporting haye.

i laugh when haye say's this fight determines wlad's legacy :!:
he also compres himself to holyfield in being the last undisputed cruiserweight to step up.holyfield had 8-10 fights against highly ranked opposition in a more fruitfull era at heavy & haye wasnt undisputed.his win in paris was great but mormeck didnt want to know & was virtually retired At that time & having enzo on your knock out reel aint much of a scalp in world boxing is it.
at heavy he's boxed bumin,fraudley,2buns,& 7ft giant who i felt kept his belt & a 45 yr old holyfield was robbed against him.haye only has a punchers chance early on.anyone who thinks he can fight for 12 is deluded.

July 2nd we find out.

Avoiding the jab, and pepper Wlad to a points win. Haye is more mobile than any of Wlads opponents I can think of.

carlbcfc wrote:Avoiding the jab, and pepper Wlad to a points win. Haye is more mobile than any of Wlads opponents I can think of.

easier said then done.wlad is a fine specimen himself & despite his losses he never really struggles with tough nuts unlike haye against fragomeni who lost to a super middle in erdie & that euro class dane who had haye digging deepklit is really another level.

bengulnaci1 wrote:July 2nd we find out.

you was right to edit it D

hurlock wrote:

bengulnaci1 wrote:July 2nd we find out.

you was right to edit it D

Not really.

Cant really be bothered entertaining ANOTHER attempt to flame Haye.

July 2nd is the day it ends for Wlad (his reign, of course)

Haye will win this he has way to much speed and power for Wlad

im supporting haye but he's a great salesman & there is too much hype. he is retiring if he loses one million p :!: if he hayemakers wlad he'll go into retirement to generate comeback money & vitali aint getting any younger & if he toppled him he'd be climbing the rich list & wouldnt stop :!:

p.s i dont mind egg on my face but haye cant control wlad :!: he wins by early ko or not at all & he is capable

Can't see a Haye victory, then again I couldn't see Groves winning so who knows?

I think there's too much talk of Vlad's poor punch resistance, whereas Haye was almost stopped by a Super-Middle in Mock, Thompson was perhaps inexperience fair enough, but Mormeck dropped Haye heavily with 2 nothing cuffing shots. I don't think it's too much to imagine a few stiff Klitchko jabs hurting Haye and maybe even dropping him, ala Holmes-Ocassio. I think the first time Klitchko lands the big right - anytime from 1-4 it's over.

10 count.

Haye continues to taint the legacy of the brothers, but what is his? He has however, along with Adam Booth, marketed himself amazingly. I am struggling to find a fighter who has warranted such a massive payday since Cooney in 1982.

good anaylisis.didnt cooney demolish norton??

Yes mate,

but an old Norton, who had recently been knocked out by Shavers in 1. He was 39 I think and shot.

Cooney obviously was the 'White Hope' at the time, who received parity with Holmes - 10 million dollars!

MachoMan09 wrote:Logic points towards this being a much easier night's work for Wladimir than a lot of people think. Haye has shown nothing throughout his career that indicates that he has what it takes to win on 2 July. So the key to a Haye victory is a Klitschko mistake.

Yep. Can't see Wlad making any mistakes, though. He's at his absolute peak as a fighter right now.

Yorkshiresuperstar wrote:Yes mate,

but an old Norton, who had recently been knocked out by Shavers in 1. He was 39 I think and shot.

Cooney obviously was the 'White Hope' at the time, who received parity with Holmes - 10 million dollars!

Norton was 37. Two years previously he fought a draw with Scott le Doux who knocked him down twice.

I really can see Haye outboxing and frustating WK at times at but then i think a stiff jab from WK could put Haye on queer street. Lots of intangibles to this one but i deffo dont think its certain this 1 will be decided by who punches hardest, both were well schooled world class am's b4 they even turned pro and are advised by extremely shrewd and talented training teams who no doubt will have a plan A,B and C. Cant wait 4 this one to unfold!!!!!!!!!!!