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I really like this idea for a thread, but it's not mine.

Giancarlo said Foreman - Frazier and I have to agree.

I'll go for a really obvious Tyson - Spinks.

First one to name a fight that doesn't qualify must be shot down with a BULLSH1T!!!!

Holyfield/Tyson
Pac/MAB
Whitaker/Chavez

Jack Dempsey - Jess Willard
Michael Nunn - Frank Tate
Mike McCallum - Michael Watson
Don Curry - Milton McCrory

Holmes v leon spinks

Clay vs Liston

Knucklez wrote:Clay vs Liston

I think this one is at least worth a bull.

Liston - Patterson (perhaps always in the first round)

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Knucklez wrote:Clay vs Liston

I think this one is at least worth a bull.

Over ruled Saad. Liston could never land enough to make a decision and never catch Ali clean enough to knock him out.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Knucklez wrote:Clay vs Liston

I think this one is at least worth a bull.

Over ruled Saad. Liston could never land enough to make a decision and never catch Ali clean enough to knock him out.

Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
I think this one is at least worth a bull.

Over ruled Saad. Liston could never land enough to make a decision and never catch Ali clean enough to knock him out.

Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: Over ruled Saad. Liston could never land enough to make a decision and never catch Ali clean enough to knock him out.

Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

Hopkins/Trinidad
Forrest/Mosley
Camacho Sr./Ramirez
Pryor/Arguello

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

This isn't a time machine thread. It's Liston vs Ali as was in their two fights, not young Liston against young Clay.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

This isn't a time machine thread. It's Liston vs Ali as was in their two fights, not young Liston against young Clay.

You should specify that when you make it. That makes for millions of answers.

Holmes/Ali
Tyson/Holmes
Holyfield/Foreman
Norris/Leonard
Camacho/Leonard
Joppy/Duran
Toney/Holyfield
Lebedev/Jones
Marciano/Louis

etc..........................

Idisagree wrote: Pryor/Arguello

BULLSHIT!

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Idisagree wrote: Pryor/Arguello

BULLSHIT!

Anyone second that?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

Maybe peak Liston vs the Ali of the Holmes fight...

Giancarlo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

Maybe peak Liston vs the Ali of the Holmes fight...

Giancarlo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

Maybe peak Liston vs the Ali of the Holmes fight...

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Maybe not as an old man that trained on Hotdogs and beer. In his prime he would have had a chance. I'd wager he would take at least one or two against any heavyweight.

Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

I agree that a peak Liston would've had a chance, but in no way did Doug Jones outpoint Clay/Ali.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Idisagree wrote: Pryor/Arguello

BULLSHIT!

Anyone second that?

No, at that point in time Pryor was at his peak and just too much for a guy getting on in age and well out of his natural weight class. It would get easier with each fight too. Watch the 2nd one (I know actually watching fights is somewhat frowned on in here) and you will see that Pryor was straight on top.

Giancarlo wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: BULLSHIT!

Anyone second that?

No, at that point in time Pryor was at his peak and just too much for a guy getting on in age and well out of his natural weight class. It would get easier with each fight too. Watch the 2nd one (I know actually watching fights is somewhat frowned on in here) and you will see that Pryor was straight on top.

Try watching the first one. Replay that ten times and he never wins? That's even funnier than your first joke. Does Pryor get the special bottle every time?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Anyone second that?

No, at that point in time Pryor was at his peak and just too much for a guy getting on in age and well out of his natural weight class. It would get easier with each fight too. Watch the 2nd one (I know actually watching fights is somewhat frowned on in here) and you will see that Pryor was straight on top.

Try watching the first one. Replay that ten times and he never wins? That's even funnier than your first joke. Does Pryor get the special bottle every time?

I have watched it. Anything Alex does, Pryor is able to just top it.

Take the blinkers off, mate.

And drop the (attempted) tough guy act. No one is impressed. We have already seen the toughest internet blowhard of all time in here, the legendary Ice T, so your huffing and puffing just wont cut it.

Giancarlo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:
No, at that point in time Pryor was at his peak and just too much for a guy getting on in age and well out of his natural weight class. It would get easier with each fight too. Watch the 2nd one (I know actually watching fights is somewhat frowned on in here) and you will see that Pryor was straight on top.

Try watching the first one. Replay that ten times and he never wins? That's even funnier than your first joke. Does Pryor get the special bottle every time?

I have watched it. Anything Alex does, Pryor is able to just top it.

Take the blinkers off, mate.

And drop the (attempted) tough guy act. No one is impressed. We have already seen the toughest internet blowhard of all time in here, the legendary Ice T, so your huffing and puffing just wont cut it.

If anyone is attempting to act tough it's you. And your non stop insinuations that nobody but you watches the fights is as retarded as it gets.

That was one of the greatest fights in history, nothing one way about it.

dempseyfire wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: Not against Ali mate. There is no evidence to support your case. Case dismissed.

There is plenty of evidence. If Ole Enery could almost knock him out and Doug Jones could outpoint him, an in shape, prime Liston could do either. Clay was afraid of him for a reason.

I agree that a peak Liston would've had a chance, but in no way did Doug Jones outpoint Clay/Ali.

It was a close fight, I meant to type almost.