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The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 07:39
by johnswan1
My own prediction is that Haye will try to mix up his tactics in order to frustrate Wlad and take him out of his gameplan.

He keeps saying how he is going to destroy Wlad early - trying to give the impression that he is going to jump at him and go gung-ho from the off. To me that means that he's not going to jump at him from the off at all, and Wlad would be naive to think any differently.

My prediction is that Haye and Booth will have different tactics for each round (and perhaps even every minute of every round), from boxing on the back foot to going on the offensive. I'm not sure how Haye can be effective in terms of winning rounds trying to box on the back foot throughout but I don't think he's going to be standing on front of Wlad from the start.

Instead I expect him to remain on the back foot taking regular breathers and frustrating Wlad with his foot movement (to the boos of the crowd), before moving in and out occasionally with quick combination power punching. If he can stay on the back foot and out of harms way (even without throwing often himself) he could potentially nick rounds with just a couple of flurries each round. Eventually he should catch Wlad cleanly and will try to finish the job.

Of course Haye himself will be vulnerable when he comes in, but Wlad has always taken a safety first approach and I expect he'll retreat into a shell every time Haye comes forward (either punching or feinting), providing him with opportunities to pick his shots and ground his feet and get out of the way again. I can see Wlad trying to throw to keep Haye off him as he stumbles backwards and trying to grab whenever he can, but he won't be able to get the same power into his shots as when he's setting up the right hand off the jab.

Final prediction: Haye wins by stoppage between rounds 3 & 5.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 07:57
by MacTavish
I predict pain... :box:

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 08:09
by Lightsoot
Haye TKO 11

Haye will box defensively in the main and will be largely dictated to by Wlad's jab. He'll be busted up and a mile behind on the cards but I think he'll hang on in there. He'll have little option but to go for broke late on and can see him doing serious damage as Klitschko inevitably gases in the second half of the fight.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 08:13
by Cas
Wlad to have some hairy moments early on, then, take control in the latter half.

Wlad by Stoppage in round 10.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 09:26
by jessi
imo haye doesent bang at heavyweight as hard as everyone thinks, however i do beleive klitscho's chin is weak enough to be taken out by him in one shot if its a perfect one, the problem is as fast as haye is klitscho could still prove hard to hit with his saftey first approach and huge arms out infront of him, if klitscho lands on haye with 80% of his power its good night no matter how much heart david has, so i feel its going to be a game of chess for rounds 1 and 2, possibly the 3rd or 4th too, but imo haye has to find that perfect punch to take him out or its inevitable haye will get caught adventuallly !

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 09:35
by Captain Hook
Haye TKO 6

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 09:39
by Terrrrry
Haye, TKO, Rd 5.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 09:55
by BillyTKid
Haye TKO round 2

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:01
by JamesH
I'm really surprised at the weighting towards Haye. I'd love him to win, but I've been cautious about backing an underdog UK fighter since Hatton convinced me he was about to give Mayweather a hiding :oops: Big Bad Wlad for me, to tell the truth I wouldn't be at all surprised if after all the bluster if it came via the judges. Haye to claim robbery, and vows to set the record straight against Vitali.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:01
by jBacca
Hoping the outcome isn't similar to that of Hatton vs PBF where people got overly excited about Hatton's chances only for him to be outclassed and stopped.

Really can't call the fight on Sat, but am going to go for an early to mid Haye stoppage.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:01
by jBacca
JamesH wrote:I'm really surprised at the weighting towards Haye. I'd love him to win, but I've been cautious about backing an underdog UK fighter since Hatton convinced me he was about to give Mayweather a hiding :oops: Big Bad Wlad for me, to tell the truth I wouldn't be at all surprised if after all the bluster if it came via the judges. Haye to claim robbery, and vows to set the record straight against Vitali.
Great timing :TU:

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:03
by lorez
I think Haye will finish this by the 5th round on tko

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:04
by gasman
Vlad KO win in the 6th.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:04
by Ezzard
I think we may see something similar to Haye-Valuev and Groves-DeGale… But at some point I expect both men will be rocked.

I like both fighters but hope Haye wins this so we get an even bigger fight with Vitali.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:06
by Chambers2
HAYE KO3!!

ALL HAIL!!!

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:28
by big lennox
It's a really intriguing contest this one:

Wlad will make it as difficult as possible to be hit, by jabbing and stepping back straight away, and also by circling to Haye's right side, thus taking his right hand and left hook away from him, but he is bound to get hit at some point, and I think Haye can knock anyone out, with the possible exception of Vitali, if he hits them cleanly.He is a wonderfully accurate puncher as well as being a big hitter.

For me, Haye by KO within the first 3-4 rounds.

I am massivley excited about this one.

Just a thought, but I wonder if Wladimir will call his bluff and load up on the right hands straight away? I can't see that though.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:36
by THE MESSIAH
jessi wrote:imo haye doesent bang at heavyweight as hard as everyone thinks, however i do beleive klitscho's chin is weak enough to be taken out by him in one shot if its a perfect one, the problem is as fast as haye is klitscho could still prove hard to hit with his saftey first approach and huge arms out infront of him, if klitscho lands on haye with 80% of his power its good night no matter how much heart david has, so i feel its going to be a game of chess for rounds 1 and 2, possibly the 3rd or 4th too, but imo haye has to find that perfect punch to take him out or its inevitable haye will get caught adventuallly !
I agree, Haye has not scored a ko at heavyweight in his life. Even Audley was on his feet and Barret kept gettng up as did Ruiz.

Wlad wins by hitting him with a jab to the chops and then he takes him out with a temple shot. WLAD KO 6 ( or 1st time he lands with even 50%)

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Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:38
by Dioufy
I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:44
by jamesmcdonnell
Dioufy wrote:I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?
No Wlad isn't audley...

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:46
by JC
Wlad by mid to late round stoppage.

I'm sure like everyone on here I've thought about this one a lot in the last few weeks. Watching both men's fights again I can see several plausible scenarios for a Haye win. Wlad is not the machine some would have you believe and I also think is supporters way over-play the influence of Emanuel Steward in discounting his previous losses.

Whatever tactics Haye does decide to employ however, it's hard to see past the holes in his defence. Yes he has great reactions and is good at slipping punches but without an excellent chin I don't think that will be enough against Klitschko. Unless Haye refuses to engage at all I see him getting caught enough to get stopped.

I think Haye will try to take the jab away by staying out of range, use lateral movement and then attempt score before Wlad has reset himself. I don't think it's out of the question that it goes the distance, if so it will be a boring fight.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:47
by Dioufy
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Dioufy wrote:I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?
No Wlad isn't audley...
Of course he isn't, but the fight will be quite similar.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:48
by nobby_nobbins
Some people seem to think Haye's punch power has been overrated because he's not been scoring one punch knockouts. Even Tyson rarely scored clean one punch kos at top level. Haye had Valuev breakdancing from a sloppy looking left and had Barratt, Audley and Ruiz either or on the floor or in trouble whenever he landed cleanly with either hand. Haye's power is NOT a myth. I'll go for Haye in three rounds.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:48
by THE MESSIAH
Dioufy wrote:I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?

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Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:49
by Dioufy
Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

Re: The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

Posted: 28 Jun 2011, 10:49
by Dioufy
THE MESSIAH wrote:
Dioufy wrote:I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?

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