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I get the feeling Haye is forecasting Wlad taking his time to enter the ring...

...so will likely delay his own entry to close the gap.

Anyone else smell fishyness around this area, given the Sturm p*ss take last week ?

I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

orbtastic wrote:I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

I think Wlad is coming in second.

orbtastic wrote:I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

No, Haye also give up this privilege too mate. Apparently it was a deal breaker with Wlad

orbtastic wrote:I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

NO , That was also one of the demands from Wlad that he enter last as the champion

TheCobra wrote:

orbtastic wrote:I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

I think Wlad is coming in second.

Yeah, I doubt Wlad would give in on that. He's a control freak.

Asterix wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

orbtastic wrote:I could be wrong here, but I understand that Haye acquiesced to every one of Wlad's demands, including 50/50 parity with all money but is entering the ring last i.e. after Wlad?

I think Wlad is coming in second.

Yeah, I doubt Wlad would give in on that. He's a control freak.

he is a control freak because haye says he is!! ... so who is the control freak!!...

Wlad holds more belts and is Ring champion, so he's entitled to come into the ring second imo.

rhino222 wrote:

Asterix wrote:

TheCobra wrote: I think Wlad is coming in second.

Yeah, I doubt Wlad would give in on that. He's a control freak.

he is a control freak because haye says he is!! ... so who is the control freak!!...

That doesn't quite make sense. Regardless, my opinion does not come from what Haye said.

rhino222 wrote:

Asterix wrote:

TheCobra wrote: I think Wlad is coming in second.

Yeah, I doubt Wlad would give in on that. He's a control freak.

he is a control freak because haye says he is!! ... so who is the control freak!!...

if i was a reighning champion who's had as many championship fights as some chumps had fight's id want to be entering second :!:
haye say's this story of his defences fat yanks etc. but he's fought audley :!: & then ruiz in his pipe & slippers.

I think the point of the original post is that, even though Haye comes out first, he will delay so that Wlad cannot delay as much. e.g. if Haye delays 30 mins, then Wlad won't be able to delay that much or the fight will only be on around Midnight.

Haye could play his game on an ipad while hes waiting. Lol

I can't see a 5 minute wait affecting Haye in any way shape or form, especially as he knows the wait is coming

Emmseegee wrote:Haye could play his game on an ipad while hes waiting. Lol

with gloves on?

apophenic wrote:

Emmseegee wrote:Haye could play his game on an ipad while hes waiting. Lol

with gloves on?

If its anything like the Sturm fight last week, he'll have time to take them off!!

Chambers2 wrote:I can't see a 5 minute wait affecting Haye in any way shape or form, especially as he knows the wait is coming

Agree with this. Haye will be expecting and will be prepared for a delayed entrance by Wlad. Not that I would know what you'd do to pepare for a delayed entance...any ideas?

I don't really get the big deal about waiting. You're waiting before you do the ring walk.

He could just wear his hood up and listen to music or whatever. Or bounce off the ropes and shadow box, that's what most people do.

I agree, it's also an opportunity to get used to the atmosphere and surroundings. It's just a mental thing really. The guy in the ring may be left thinking "I'm ready to fight now but this guy is taking his time and fighting when he wants to fight". Haye will just need to remain calm and focussed, which I'm sure he will. He has to expect Wlad will take his time.

The ridiculous wait that Sturm forced on Macklin didn't seem to have any effect. It even possibly had the reverse effect as it may have led Matt to think "If he's trying to out-psyche me by playing silly buggers with his entrance then he clearly feels he needs an artificial advantage which means he may be running scared". That kind of mindset may have prompted Matt to come out with more confidence and that was clearly evident in the opening rounds.

earsjohn wrote:The ridiculous wait that Sturm forced on Macklin didn't seem to have any effect. It even possibly had the reverse effect as it may have led Matt to think "If he's trying to out-psyche me by playing silly buggers with his entrance then he clearly feels he needs an artificial advantage which means he may be running scared". That kind of mindset may have prompted Matt to come out with more confidence and that was clearly evident in the opening rounds.

Good point, thought Macklin looked real calm while waiting fo Sturm and that is the mindset to have. If you're opponent is making you wait then it can be viewed as a sign of fear/weakness/doubt

Haye has said if Wlad makes him wait too long he'll go back to the dressing room.

I can see this happening. Haye plays by his own rules, and if it pisses Wlad off, he'll do it even more.

Finch wrote:Haye has said if Wlad makes him wait too long he'll go back to the dressing room.

I can see this happening. Haye plays by his own rules, and if it pisses Wlad off, he'll do it even more.

Whatever move Wlad has up his sleeve, Im sure Haye will two.

Although i think on the night, it will be far more intense.

I also think the Brits will be heard above everyone else out there by far.

Presumably Haye's had the tipoff about Wlad's ringwalk because Wlad is planning something choreographed. If Wlad just planned to wait a while, he wouldn't leak the info. In which case, anything Haye does to delay won't affect Wlad at all and will just push the first bell back further.

hurlock wrote:

rhino222 wrote:

Asterix wrote: Yeah, I doubt Wlad would give in on that. He's a control freak.

he is a control freak because haye says he is!! ... so who is the control freak!!...

if i was a reighning champion who's had as many championship fights as some chumps had fight's id want to be entering second :!:
haye say's this story of his defences fat yanks etc. but he's fought audley :!: & then ruiz in his pipe & slippers.

I'd say criticisms of Wlad's opponents are more valid than Haye's. That's not to say I DO criticise Wlad himself - he's fought the best he could and it's not his fault the division is so dire. But because he's fought at heavyweight during such a time, he's been limited to the fat and old guys Haye talks about it.

As for Haye, the only one I could criticise him for really is Harrison, and even then you have to admit it made financial sense. Valuev was top 3 at the time, and Ruiz as mandatory was beyond Haye's choosing. And you can't find much fault with his cruiserweight days.

bfchunk wrote:Wlad holds more belts and is Ring champion, so he's entitled to come into the ring second imo.

Amen to that. He's the man, when Haye beat him, he can come in 2nd against Vitali.