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British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (7.) Matthew Macklin
7. (6.) Rendall Munroe
8. (8.) John Murray
9. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
10. (11.) Matthew Hatton
11. (14.) Kell Brook
12. (12.) Brian Magee (Irish)
13. (9.) Ryan Rhodes
14. (13.) Darren Barker
15. (24.) Gavin Rees
16. (15.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
17. (16.) Ola Afolabi
18. (17.) Stuart Hall
19. (18.) Stephen Smith
20. (19.) John Simpson
21. (20.) Andy Lee (Irish)
22. (21.) George Groves
23. (22.) Jason Booth
24. (23.) Kevin Mitchell
25. (25.) Prince Arron
26. (26.) James DeGale
27. (27.) Ashley Theophane
28. (28.) Anthony Crolla
29. (29.) Danny McIntosh
30. (30.) Stephen Foster
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 30 Jun 2011, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 02:41
by Pugilist-specialist
I love your list, Horse. I always read it but have never commented before.
I thought their performances against Lovemore Ndou might have swapped the positions of Hatton and Brook.
Keep up the great work.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 04:33
by Camcas
Good list think Brook should be above Hatton though and Barker and Afolabi are too low IMO
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 04:45
by twenty six
Hatton above Rhodes.
Would like to hear your reasons behind this.
No - not looking for a ruck just like to know what method you use to decide.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 05:33
by stujones
twenty six wrote:Hatton above Rhodes.
Would like to hear your reasons behind this.
No - not looking for a ruck just like to know what method you use to decide.
As a guess, I would say Hatton did slightly better in defeat than Rhodes did vs Alvarez and both were EBU champions going into the bout.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 06:00
by Wake up call
I think this has been pointed out before, but Andy Lee is not British.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 06:29
by keithmoonhangover
I don't think you should drop Rhodes because he lost to Alvarez.
If he'd fought a bum and knocked him out, whould you have kept his rating the same?
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 06:30
by Dioufy
Sexual.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 06:59
by freddydoesdallas
Wake up call wrote:I think this has been pointed out before, but Andy Lee is not British.
Does he hold a BBBC license?
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 07:14
by cocobongo
I think Martin Murray should be in there
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 07:15
by twenty six
Keith Moon,
I agree with you.
I would also say that Alvarez has improved considerably since the Hatton fight, so to compare the two fights is a little ungenerous in my view - but then again I would say that, wouldn't I !
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 07:24
by Wake up call
freddydoesdallas wrote:Wake up call wrote:I think this has been pointed out before, but Andy Lee is not British.
Does he hold a BBBC license?
No
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 08:13
by keithmoonhangover
twenty six wrote:Keith Moon,
I agree with you.
I would also say that Alvarez has improved considerably since the Hatton fight, so to compare the two fights is a little ungenerous in my view - but then again I would say that, wouldn't I !
All great minds think alike!

I'm curious though, why did you say "but then again I would say that"?
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 08:51
by twenty six
Ryan and myself are close friends.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 08:58
by jtourettes
I would have Haye above Khan as he's a former undisputed champ.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 08:59
by keithmoonhangover
twenty six wrote:Ryan and myself are close friends.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 11:01
by Dan Dares
Nice one for getting it up on time this month Horse, ffs. I take it Haye goes to the top if he sparks Drago?
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 14:56
by Horse
Pugilist-specialist wrote:I love your list, Horse. I always read it but have never commented before.
I thought their performances against Lovemore Ndou might have swapped the positions of Hatton and Brook.
It was a close one, but I think Hatton's recent record is still better than Brook's.
Pugilist-specialist wrote:Keep up the great work.

Thank you.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 15:10
by Horse
Camcas wrote:Good list think Brook should be above Hatton though and Barker and Afolabi are too low IMO
Hatton has fought for a World title and put in a respectable performance, as well as holding the European title. Brook hasn't reached that level yet, so I think Hatton still deserves to be above Brook for now.
Barker has only had one fight in the last year, so I don't think he should be any higher at the moment.
If Afolabi beats Dunstan on the Klitschko vs Haye undercard tomorrow then I will move him up a few places.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 03 Jul 2011, 12:35
by Horse
twenty six wrote:Hatton above Rhodes.
Would like to hear your reasons behind this.
No - not looking for a ruck just like to know what method you use to decide.
I think Hatton performed better against Alvarez and I also think his recent record is better than Rhodes's.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 03 Jul 2011, 21:45
by Horse
Wake up call wrote:I think this has been pointed out before, but Andy Lee is not British.
That is why I have put "(Irish)" next to his name.
Re: British & Irish Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 03 Jul 2011, 21:57
by crusader
I would have Brook one spot above Hatton, but I can understand why you rank Hatton higher. I agree that Hatton should be above Rhodes. Overall a very good list
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 04 Jul 2011, 10:37
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:I don't think you should drop Rhodes because he lost to Alvarez.
His performance was not good against Alvarez and he has not been fighting very impressive opposition over the last 18 months. Based on that I didn't think he deserved to keep a top 10 ranking.
keithmoonhangover wrote:If he'd fought a bum and knocked him out, whould you have kept his rating the same?
Yes.
Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2011
Posted: 04 Jul 2011, 10:38
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:Sexual.
