Did Haye win a round?
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 19:30
I must admit I went out for a cigarette and got chatting so missed 8 and 9 but did he win a round?
I can't even remember the fight now as it was pretty forgettable but i think you could have given him rds 3,8,9 and 12. Wlad was hardly dominating the fight and missing alot too but i guess his better activity in each rd was the difference.yid14 wrote:I must admit I went out for a cigarette and got chatting so missed 8 and 9 but did he win a round?
You should have left it as you can't remember the fight! Unfortunatly I do.exittored wrote:I can't even remember the fight now as it was pretty forgettable but i think you could have given him rds 3,8,9 and 12. Wlad was hardly dominating the fight and missing alot too but i guess his better activity in each rd was the difference.yid14 wrote:I must admit I went out for a cigarette and got chatting so missed 8 and 9 but did he win a round?
Outworked maybe but not outclassed, if you land 10 punches on your opponent and get hit 5 times then your going to win the round on most scorecards. At no point was Haye in any real trouble but Wlad was definately hurt a bit in the 3rd and definately in the 12th.mkirkhope wrote:I gave him 2 including the point deduction round. 10-2 overall. Outclassed.
I didn't think that Wlad was hurt in the third. He was definitely buzzed in the 12th but I thought he looked in control in almost every other round.exittored wrote:Outworked maybe but not outclassed, if you land 10 punches on your opponent and get hit 5 times then your going to win the round on most scorecards. At no point was Haye in any real trouble but Wlad was definately hurt a bit in the 3rd and definately in the 12th.mkirkhope wrote:I gave him 2 including the point deduction round. 10-2 overall. Outclassed.
Haye won 3 or 4 rounds for me, he was dissapointing but considering most of the 'experts' were predicting i felt he did ok.
For me, outworked is an understatement. I think there was quite a big gulf between those two, and I got the impression Wlad was cruising and could have moved up a gear or two if need be. For large parts of the rounds Haye seemed to do no work at all and I don't think that's being outworked - it's doing nothing. Yes Wlad got hurt in the 12th but one desperation punch when a ko is needed asap doesnt make up for 11 rounds of being dictated.crusader wrote:I didn't think that Wlad was hurt in the third. He was definitely buzzed in the 12th but I thought he looked in control in almost every other round.exittored wrote:Outworked maybe but not outclassed, if you land 10 punches on your opponent and get hit 5 times then your going to win the round on most scorecards. At no point was Haye in any real trouble but Wlad was definately hurt a bit in the 3rd and definately in the 12th.mkirkhope wrote:I gave him 2 including the point deduction round. 10-2 overall. Outclassed.
Haye won 3 or 4 rounds for me, he was dissapointing but considering most of the 'experts' were predicting i felt he did ok.
Yep, pretty similar - gave Haye the third and had him sharing the 12th and one other round (can't remember which in the cold light of day but it was 8th or the 9th).slapbangwhallop wrote:I gave him a share or the 3rd and the 12th
I was feeling generous.
That's a remarkable interpretation of the fight - Vlad's connection percentage with the jab was certainly better than that and he landed at least as many right-hands as Haye. In fact, Haye impressed me with the way he took them.dempseyfire wrote:Wlad coming forward missing 9/10 jabs and not landing any power shots.
I said in many rounds that was what happened. Yes, overall Wlad landed more jabs and that is what won him the fight. I also think in terms of total real power shots they were about even. But Klitschko was not consistenly effective. It was a case of who was worse not who was better.Deserter wrote:That's a remarkable interpretation of the fight - Vlad's connection percentage with the jab was certainly better than that and he landed at least as many right-hands as Haye. In fact, Haye impressed me with the way he took them.dempseyfire wrote:Wlad coming forward missing 9/10 jabs and not landing any power shots.
Fair enough, just felt that particular quote was not representative of the overall fight as I do feel that he controlled the fight with his jab - the frustration was that he hasn't got the tools to capitalise on it further other than throwing the straight right. I thought he might throw more hooks after his recent success with that shot, but it wasn't to be.dempseyfire wrote:I said in many rounds that was what happened. Yes, overall Wlad landed more jabs and that is what won him the fight. I also think in terms of total real power shots they were about even. But Klitschko was not consistenly effective. It was a case of who was worse not who was better.Deserter wrote:That's a remarkable interpretation of the fight - Vlad's connection percentage with the jab was certainly better than that and he landed at least as many right-hands as Haye. In fact, Haye impressed me with the way he took them.dempseyfire wrote:Wlad coming forward missing 9/10 jabs and not landing any power shots.
Same as me Haye did`t win a round.slapbangwhallop wrote:I gave him a share or the 3rd and the 12th
I was feeling generous.