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Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 21:37
by mikewl
Haye should forget about the whole movie biz and being a celebrity and say bugger to his retirement plans.
Even though I picked Wlad I will give Haye some credit, he took some decent shots.
He should take some time off then come back and take on some HW's near the top, hopefully string a few wins together and then retire, it would do his career a world of good and although he won't have realised the dream of being No 1 in the HW division he can still make a good impression, just cut out all the bs hype, i'd give him a good chance against alot of the top 10 heavys.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 21:39
by Emmseegee
Im confident that theres only two other heavyweights capable of beating haye and they were both squeezed out the same hole.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 21:42
by leforge
Emmseegee wrote:Im confident that theres only two other heavyweights capable of beating haye and they were both squeezed out the same hole.
I think there are many!
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 22:06
by Karl Jade
A busy boxer who punches in combinations like Arreola would beat him, in my opinion.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 22:17
by Cas
I still think some HW contenders could beat Haye.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 22:22
by Coco
Haye won't be considered for the marquee fights again after that
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 22:28
by mikewl
Coco wrote:Haye won't be considered for the marquee fights again after that
And rightfully so but I think there would be interest in some fights against the likes of Povetkin or some other high ranked guys.
It will show what he was about as a fighter, if he retires then it was mostly about the money, the flashy flash lol, but if he continues, takes on some tough fighters and shows his fighting heart then it would be good.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 23:21
by charlieb
I think Haye would absolutely be considered for marquee fights, straight away.
This thing was a once-in-a-generation fight, second only to Pacquiao/Mayweather on the dream fight list. The Klitschkos' don't see this kind of money often, I've no doubt they'd happily raid Haye's carcus for as much as it's worth.
The same goes for the other top contenders, Wlad was supposed to be chinny and even when Haye landed relatively cleanly, he took them. When all of the belts involve going through a Klitscho, Haye's going to represent as lucrative a match as can be made without the absolute guarantee of a pasting.
It's Haye's first loss and there's blood in the water. I could quite easily see the financial appeal in fights with the likes of Arreola and Povetkin, Chagaev or even Solis.
Edit: Correction, Haye's second loss.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 23:25
by leforge
charlieb wrote:I think Haye would absolutely be considered for marquee fights, straight away.
This thing was a once-in-a-generation fight, second only to Pacquiao/Mayweather on the dream fight list. The Klitschkos' don't see this kind of money often, I've no doubt they'd happily raid Haye's carcus for as much as it's worth.
The same goes for the other top contenders, Wlad was supposed to be chinny and even when Haye landed relatively cleanly, he took them. When all of the belts involve going through a Klitscho, Haye's going to represent as lucrative a match as can be made without the absolute guarantee of a pasting.
It's Haye's first loss and there's blood in the water. I could quite easily see the financial appeal in fights with the likes of Arreola and Povetkin, Chagaev or even Solis.
Haye would lose to most of them.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 23:43
by charlieb
leforge wrote:charlieb wrote:I think Haye would absolutely be considered for marquee fights, straight away.
This thing was a once-in-a-generation fight, second only to Pacquiao/Mayweather on the dream fight list. The Klitschkos' don't see this kind of money often, I've no doubt they'd happily raid Haye's carcus for as much as it's worth.
The same goes for the other top contenders, Wlad was supposed to be chinny and even when Haye landed relatively cleanly, he took them. When all of the belts involve going through a Klitscho, Haye's going to represent as lucrative a match as can be made without the absolute guarantee of a pasting.
It's Haye's first loss and there's blood in the water. I could quite easily see the financial appeal in fights with the likes of Arreola and Povetkin, Chagaev or even Solis.
Haye would lose to most of them.
I think it would be a mistake to take any of those fights. Every single fight at heavyweight has been a calculated risk, and his craft and punch has seen him through, up until now.
I'm sure if Haye continues, I'll at some point convince myself that him putting off retirement was a good idea, but looking down the road from here, retiring seems like the best option to me. He's achieved a lot more than most, crossed over, hopefully banked a great deal and even though he wasn't able to back up his talk, he at least brought some genuine excitement to a wearied division.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 23:51
by leforge
charlieb wrote:leforge wrote:charlieb wrote:I think Haye would absolutely be considered for marquee fights, straight away.
This thing was a once-in-a-generation fight, second only to Pacquiao/Mayweather on the dream fight list. The Klitschkos' don't see this kind of money often, I've no doubt they'd happily raid Haye's carcus for as much as it's worth.
The same goes for the other top contenders, Wlad was supposed to be chinny and even when Haye landed relatively cleanly, he took them. When all of the belts involve going through a Klitscho, Haye's going to represent as lucrative a match as can be made without the absolute guarantee of a pasting.
It's Haye's first loss and there's blood in the water. I could quite easily see the financial appeal in fights with the likes of Arreola and Povetkin, Chagaev or even Solis.
Haye would lose to most of them.
I think it would be a mistake to take any of those fights. Every single fight at heavyweight has been a calculated risk, and his craft and punch has seen him through, up until now.
He have made dough! But he did think he win tonight Wlad did not take the bite!
I'm sure if Haye continues, I'll at some point convince myself that him putting off retirement was a good idea, but looking down the road from here, retiring seems like the best option to me. He's achieved a lot more than most, crossed over, hopefully banked a great deal and even though he wasn't able to back up his talk, he at least brought some genuine excitement to a wearied division.
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 23:56
by HeavyHitters
Re: Haye and Retirement
Posted: 03 Jul 2011, 00:22
by charlieb
Cheeky get, he fought 12 rounds with a gammy toe.
