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With the exception of Vitali. Who stands the best chance if they fought in say 3 months time.

I'll go with Povetkin. He's accurate, fast and in his prime.

Haye.... without the broken toe

David Price in 3-4 years time if Wlad is still about.

The field is terribly thin and I would heavily favor Wlad over every opponent not named Vitali Klitschko. Of the realisitc options I'd give Helenius the best chance. He's the same size as Wlad, has some decent skills, and can punch. I don't believe he has any history of chin issues either.

Povetkin is tailor-made for Wlad imo and guys like Price need to get past domestic level first.

Father time, no-one else.

I wonder how big Lennox felt after the fight. Being there in Germany with all the pre fight hype, the massive crowd, the fight itself and seeing Wlad further unify the division. It must be hard not to want to come back after that.

dbf wrote:I wonder how big Lennox felt after the fight. Being there in Germany with all the pre fight hype, the massive crowd, the fight itself and seeing Wlad further unify the division. It must be hard not to want to come back after that.

Danny Flexen wouldn't say something like that

Counter-puncher wrote:

dbf wrote:I wonder how big Lennox felt after the fight. Being there in Germany with all the pre fight hype, the massive crowd, the fight itself and seeing Wlad further unify the division. It must be hard not to want to come back after that.

Danny Flexen wouldn't say something like that

Ha ha. I bet he agrees with me.

dbf wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

dbf wrote:I wonder how big Lennox felt after the fight. Being there in Germany with all the pre fight hype, the massive crowd, the fight itself and seeing Wlad further unify the division. It must be hard not to want to come back after that.

Danny Flexen wouldn't say something like that

Ha ha. I bet he agrees with me.

i think you need to push the angle that it's you who's the original, and flexen just follows in your wake......

Haye. We all see how that went!

The way Wlad fights thesedays means he can fight for the next few years without really coming close to defeat based on whats out there right now.

Is there even a current pro who can provide him with a genuine test, be it within the next few months or next few years?

I hear people saying Helenius, Povetkin and Price in a few years time but I think Wlad not only beats these 3 with plenty to spare but he stops them all.

The next top Heavyweight ruler is currently in the amateurs. Probably still a junior too!

yiddo14 wrote:Haye. We all see how that went!

The way Wlad fights thesedays means he can fight for the next few years without really coming close to defeat based on whats out there right now.

Is there even a current pro who can provide him with a genuine test, be it within the next few months or next few years?

I hear people saying Helenius, Povetkin and Price in a few years time but I think Wlad not only beats these 3 with plenty to spare but he stops them all.

The next top Heavyweight ruler is currently in the amateurs. Probably still a junior too!

People used to talk about Tyson like that. Everyone is beatable, it's not like we've just watched Ali vs Cleveland Williams. Wladimir is beatable, make no mistake.

Are there any budding heavyweights with a 'Toney' style. I think that is sth style that will topple Vlad

keithmoonhangover wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:Haye. We all see how that went!

The way Wlad fights thesedays means he can fight for the next few years without really coming close to defeat based on whats out there right now.

Is there even a current pro who can provide him with a genuine test, be it within the next few months or next few years?

I hear people saying Helenius, Povetkin and Price in a few years time but I think Wlad not only beats these 3 with plenty to spare but he stops them all.

The next top Heavyweight ruler is currently in the amateurs. Probably still a junior too!

People used to talk about Tyson like that. Everyone is beatable, it's not like we've just watched Ali vs Cleveland Williams. Wladimir is beatable, make no mistake.

He's very beatable. It's just that the division is extraordinarily weak.

Flump wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:Haye. We all see how that went!

The way Wlad fights thesedays means he can fight for the next few years without really coming close to defeat based on whats out there right now.

Is there even a current pro who can provide him with a genuine test, be it within the next few months or next few years?

I hear people saying Helenius, Povetkin and Price in a few years time but I think Wlad not only beats these 3 with plenty to spare but he stops them all.

The next top Heavyweight ruler is currently in the amateurs. Probably still a junior too!

People used to talk about Tyson like that. Everyone is beatable, it's not like we've just watched Ali vs Cleveland Williams. Wladimir is beatable, make no mistake.

He's very beatable. It's just that the division is extraordinarily weak.

I sound insane, but I think Povetkin beats him right now.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Flump wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote: People used to talk about Tyson like that. Everyone is beatable, it's not like we've just watched Ali vs Cleveland Williams. Wladimir is beatable, make no mistake.

He's very beatable. It's just that the division is extraordinarily weak.

I sound insane, but I think Povetkin beats him right now.

Povetkin hasn't looked good in years. You do sound insane.

Hasn't Povetkin been guilty of the worst 'duck' since Bowe /Lewis?

BIGMARK wrote:it needs to be a fighter the size of Price, if Price will be good enough is another thing and only time will tell.

I was talking to Frank Maloney on Sunday and he says Price is going to be a World Champion, no question.

No-one really stands out, but maybe Mike Perez stands a chance, simply because he can land big punches early

BIGMARK wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:No-one really stands out, but maybe Mike Perez stands a chance, simply because he can land big punches early

he is too small, not to beat a limited giant like Tye Fields but Wlad no way

Maybe, but i think he has true power in his fists, and if he can land quick it may have an effect, or Perez might get his head boxed off.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

yiddo14 wrote:Haye. We all see how that went!

The way Wlad fights thesedays means he can fight for the next few years without really coming close to defeat based on whats out there right now.

Is there even a current pro who can provide him with a genuine test, be it within the next few months or next few years?

I hear people saying Helenius, Povetkin and Price in a few years time but I think Wlad not only beats these 3 with plenty to spare but he stops them all.

The next top Heavyweight ruler is currently in the amateurs. Probably still a junior too!

People used to talk about Tyson like that. Everyone is beatable, it's not like we've just watched Ali vs Cleveland Williams. Wladimir is beatable, make no mistake.

He is beatable, no doubt. My point was more to do with the lack of genuine challengers to the modern day Wlad as opposed to him being an unbeatable monster.

Povetkin would have given him a good fight a couple of years ago but he seems to have regressed a tad. Hopefully the fight can be made and Povetkin gives a good account of himself. He doesn't seem too keen though.

what about Luis Ortiz?

Ok here's a question for you all. Haye as a heavy is not much bigger than a Joe frazier or Muhammad Ali. How would they have fard vs Wlad given the size difference? could it be that the good big guy does beat the good little guy? I personally think a style similar to foremans or Tyson's would have beat Wlad. Frazier would be too small IMO. I'm think Mike Perez stands an excellent chance against Wlad, Not so much against Vitali.

A pot Shotter such as James Toney to beat Vitali
Pressure fighter like Arreola or Perez to beat Wladimir
Something truly special to beat both

A strong guy with good head movement who knows how to apply intelligent pressure. I think Dereck Chisora has the potential to be that guy.

he will be beat in a complete upset against a guy we all thought had no chance by huge k.o , who i dont know , but i dont think we will expect it , in fact that sets the scene perfectly for Chisora/Fury Winner , wasnt what i was getting at but still .

kamicazze wrote:Ok here's a question for you all. Haye as a heavy is not much bigger than a Joe frazier or Muhammad Ali. How would they have fard vs Wlad given the size difference? could it be that the good big guy does beat the good little guy? I personally think a style similar to foremans or Tyson's would have beat Wlad. Frazier would be too small IMO. I'm think Mike Perez stands an excellent chance against Wlad, Not so much against Vitali.

A pot Shotter such as James Toney to beat Vitali
Pressure fighter like Arreola or Perez to beat Wladimir
Something truly special to beat both

Foreman too powerful, too relentless and underrated ring skills.
Holmes, too fast, two handed, great stamina and underrated strength, plus great chin.
Ali, too quick, so many punches, so much movement, he would be the one I'd pick to stop Wlad.
Frazier, slower, smallest reach, but could Wlad handle the pressure and constant rolling, he sure wouldn't stop Frazier.